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Old 05-13-2019, 06:15 AM   #251 (permalink)
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What about spelling class?
Spelling or grammar?
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:25 AM   #252 (permalink)
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:39 AM   #253 (permalink)
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i think its They're*
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:41 AM   #254 (permalink)
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We should just change all 3 to “der”

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Old 05-13-2019, 12:10 PM   #255 (permalink)
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^ That may one day come, OH. I read that in a generation or two, the "s" of "He works" will disappear because only native speakers consistently get it correct. The ever-growing number of ESL speakers can't be bothered with it. we all gonna rite like elf

[In case anyone is wondering, ESL = English as a Second Language]
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:30 PM   #256 (permalink)
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English verb conjugation is in flux. I hated teaching grammar because yer basically telling black kids it’s incorrect to talk like der mothers. I always said it doesn’t mean yer grammar is incorrect. It just means ders a group of pretentious jerkoffs who pretend they own the language who say it’s wrong. And der the idiots that grade yer common core bs
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:58 PM   #257 (permalink)
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Our experience of teaching is sooooo different, OH.

I really like teaching grammar - but my students come to it fresh and feel a sense of achievement as they learn to express their ideas with greater precision. If you were trying to modify ingrained habits of speech, that was much less welcome, I'm sure. I suppose some uplifting talk about improving students' job prospects would've been pretty futile.


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I once spent about 90 mins of class going through the twelve basic English tenses: uses, question structures and all. I noticed one guy spent the class furiously writing notes, and at the end of the class he came up to me, shook his notes in my face and said, "This is gold. Pure gold." He was from Peru, so probably knew gold when he saw it.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:08 PM   #258 (permalink)
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Our experience of teaching is sooooo different, OH.

I really like teaching grammar - but my students come to it fresh and feel a sense of achievement as they learn to express their ideas with greater precision. If you were trying to modify ingrained habits of speech, that was much less welcome, I'm sure. I suppose some uplifting talk about improving students' job prospects would've been pretty futile.
Gotta admit I'd hate teaching a bunch of black kids "proper" grammar. I love ebonics. It's so much more fun and flows off the tongue so much more satisfyingly and as someone seemingly trying to break them of their "poverty ghetto slave" habits I'd feel like a cultural terrorist trying to force whiteness on them to erase a part of themselves, like I was whipping them and telling them that their name was Toby.

****ing white people know what they're saying, it's not a different language, so who ****ing cares? Language is simply a means to communicate and if two people can communicate then why does it matter if their syntaxes aren't a carbon copy of each other? When language becomes a means to separate races and classes then it's not the person being criticized who needs to shut the **** up.

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Did he call you Jerry? And lol at Peru gold.
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Gotta admit I'd hate teaching a bunch of black kids "proper" grammar. I love ebonics. It's so much more fun and flows off the tongue so much more satisfyingly and as someone seemingly trying to break them of their "poverty ghetto slave" habits I'd feel like a cultural terrorist trying to force whiteness on them to erase a part of themselves, like I was whipping them and telling them that their name was Toby.

****ing white people know what they're saying, it's not a different language, so who ****ing cares? Language is simply a means to communicate and if two people can communicate then why does it matter if their syntaxes aren't a carbon copy of each other? When language becomes a means to separate races and classes then it's not the person being criticized who needs to shut the **** up.
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