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Old 07-11-2018, 01:22 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Horror? Yes. Sci-fi? Yes. Fantasy? Hell no.
Not a fan of Buffy, then? Carnivale? Supernatural? Lucifer? Conan? Pratchett?
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:25 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:32 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Horror? Yes. Sci-fi? Yes. Fantasy? Hell no.
Just don't read "sword and sorcery dragons and elf bitches" fantasy then. It's a creatively stagnant field of literature that's been stagnant for almost as long as it's existed and has only gotten more self-indulgent since D&D corrupted our youth. The only reason to read it is if you're into escapism for the sake of escapism. (And yes, fellow fantasy dorks, I'm also talking about Game of Thrones cause it's just the emperor's new clothes in less cringy fashion.)

There is other fantasy out there though.


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Just don't read "sword and sorcery dragons and elf bitches" fantasy then. It's a creatively stagnant field of literature that's been stagnant for almost as long as it's existed and has only gotten more self-indulgent since D&D corrupted our youth. The only reason to read it is if you're into escapism for the sake of escapism. (And yes, fellow fantasy dorks, I'm also talking about Game of Thrones cause it's just the emperor's new clothes in less cringy fashion.)

There is other fantasy out there though.


Yeah, and then the "good stuff" keeps playing around with and twisting the tropes. Ugly elves and huge dwarves and ****. Hi-****ing-larious.
But I was obviously being facetious, I'm sure there's some great fantasy out there, but tendentially it still gets owned by sci-fi like a little bitch.
And Clive Barker bores me. A short story or novella here and there is fine, he's really good at telling genuinely gruesome ****. But he gets tiresome fast.
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I wasn't talking about fantasy that messes with tropes cause that's the same damn thing with a fresh coat of paint to convince fans and the author themselves that they're not just dealing in glorified Warhammer. There's actual fantasy that uses the supernatural in much the same way as sci fi to build a world based on concepts that are in service to the story and not just theater dressing passed down from one book to the next.

Unfortunately I'm drawing a blank at least on books whose titles I can remember since I haven't been reading fantasy in years and was reading the sword and sorcery variety for the most part. Google is also unhelpful since fantasy fans are by and large the same and I'm not sure how to narrow down the search without getting yet another "TOP 10 LIST OF THE BEST LOTR RIPOFFS!!!"
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Just don't read "sword and sorcery dragons and elf bitches" fantasy then. It's a creatively stagnant field of literature that's been stagnant for almost as long as it's existed and has only gotten more self-indulgent since D&D corrupted our youth. The only reason to read it is if you're into escapism for the sake of escapism. (And yes, fellow fantasy dorks, I'm also talking about Game of Thrones cause it's just the emperor's new clothes in less cringy fashion.)

There is other fantasy out there though.


Barker's more horror though. And that's where it gets confusing, because where do you draw the line? Sure, sci-fi is sci-fi, and usually there's no argument there. Even steampunk is sci-fi. But horror and fantasy tend to meld a lot in my experience. "Interview with the Vampire" is undoubtedly horror, but with some fantasy elements. Much of Barker's stuff, I definitely agree, can straddle both genres. Brian Lumley's Necroscope series is almost all three melded.
Then there's Koontz...
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