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Old 07-29-2018, 05:10 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Old 07-29-2018, 05:29 PM   #172 (permalink)
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White privilege is a collection of factors and statistics that prove that the American system is more likely to put white people in power rather than other minorities.

A great point that backs it up is the fact that the worst places in America with the most poverty, the least resources and the most violence are primarily black areas with a history of being refused resources over racial discrimination from a time when black people were segregated into these communities away from white people.

Another great point is that minorities are given harsher sentences than white people for the same crimes. To go along with that is the fact that some police stations are literally telling their officers to target minorities over whites to hit quota.

Because of our history of racism white people are more likely to have connections and opportunities from being born in a family that built connections, businesses and opportunities over time while a lot of minorities don't have those some connections because our racist history literally prevented them from doing it. A great example is the fact that there are more white legacy students in college (these are students that were accepted into universities because they are related to alumni of those colleges) than there are black people in college as a whole.

There is also a perceptional bias assuming that minorities are criminals or gang members causing them to be harassed or blamed or stalked in stores. White people in America almost never have to worry about being treated unfairly in stores, restaurants, places of employment, etc. because of their race.

Edit: The first American president that wasn't white was accused of not being an actual citizen and was harassed into providing a birth certificate because of the color of his skin. Even the most powerful person in America is not exempt from the harassment, prejudice and assumptions that white people in this country never have to face. If that isn't a sign of white privilege, I don't know what is.
Thank you because that's a lot of effort to put in for people who don't care, but don't forget about the history of housing discrimination where blacks were prevented from owning homes in white neighborhoods by unofficial but very real segregation. The prevention of blacks from the kind of wealth afforded by home ownership is important. Not to mention that the ownership opportunities given to them in low income areas had unfair pricing that basically forced them to forgo maintaining their property just to pay their mortgages so that their property values plummeted.
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Old 07-29-2018, 05:33 PM   #173 (permalink)
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That has nothing to do with anything so I'll just ask you again if you've ever honestly looked into the idea of white privilege without actively trying to disprove it or just watching Youtube videos of people who are trying to disprove it.

If you think that nobody has ever given you a good explanation of white privilege and why it exists then it might be because it's an abstract concept that's very hard to point to with a smoking gun. So maybe you should seek the information and opinions out yourself instead of declaring victory over a concept that is very easy to denigrate by people who have a vested interest in nitpicking it (i.e. white people who don't want to feel guilty about anything).
It's a stupid term.. it implies that white people as a whole have a distinct advantage and all the arguments use specific examples. There is nothing inherently advantageous about being white skinned. It is entirely dependent on where you live. So why not be clear and discuss how white americans have privileges over other minority americans instead of using some lame race baiting generalization? That's really what you mean when you use the term.
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Old 07-29-2018, 05:33 PM   #174 (permalink)
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Thank you because that's a lot of effort to put in for people who don't care, but don't forget about the history of housing discrimination where blacks were prevented from owning homes in white neighborhoods by unofficial but very real segregation. The prevention of blacks from the kind of wealth afforded by home ownership is important. Not to mention that the ownership opportunities given to them in low income areas had unfair pricing that basically forced them to forgo maintaining their property just to pay their mortgages so that their property values plummeted.
I didn't know that and I learned something today.
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Old 07-29-2018, 05:38 PM   #175 (permalink)
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It's a stupid term.. it implies that white people as a whole have a distinct advantage and all the arguments use specific examples. There is nothing inherently advantageous about being white skinned. It is entirely dependent on where you live. So why not be clear and discuss how white americans have privileges over other minority americans instead of using some lame race baiting generalization? That's really what you mean when you use the term.
But for what ever reason majority of the places where the majority isn't white and whites face racial discrimination typically happen to be 3rd world countries. That's probably just a coincidence, though.
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If you want to speak generally it's majority privilege + tribalism with whole lot of history and nuance.. it's not white privilege.
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If you want to speak generally it's majority privilege + tribalism with whole lot of history and nuance.. it's not white privilege.
Then why are most first world nations on the planet white when majority of the global population isn't white?
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Because they dominated the battlefields historically? Where does white privilege exist where whites are the minority?

There is a difference between someone with money being able to have privilege over the poor and a societal structure where if your white you have a better chance of succeeding within it.
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It's a stupid term.. it implies that white people as a whole have a distinct advantage and all the arguments use specific examples. There is nothing inherently advantageous about being white skinned. It is entirely dependent on where you live. So why not be clear and discuss how white americans have privileges over other minority americans instead of using some lame race baiting generalization? That's really what you mean when you use the term.
It's not inherent. The context of whitey being the majority is what makes it a reality .
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It's a stupid term.. it implies that white people as a whole have a distinct advantage and all the arguments use specific examples. There is nothing inherently advantageous about being white skinned. It is entirely dependent on where you live. So why not be clear and discuss how white americans have privileges over other minority americans instead of using some lame race baiting generalization? That's really what you mean when you use the term.
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If you want to speak generally it's majority privilege + tribalism with whole lot of history and nuance.. it's not white privilege.
Why are you bothering to make the distinction? You recognize the reality of the situation, yes? You recognize that whites in America have real advantages over minorities so why do you care about the term "white privilege"? We're not talking about China, we're talking about at the very least America where the term "white privilege" is important and not using it would ignore the racial aspect. It's not like we're talking simply about class, we're talking about race and its relation to class.
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