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Old 08-17-2005, 01:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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When Europeans came to North America did they learn the Native American language? My point is this-- what ever population is dominant, their language will be spoken. The Hispanic population is dominant in several parts of the US now. Wishing can't make it different. It would be a good idea for all of us to learn to speak Spanish if we want to be working 20 years from now...
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
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i think us americans should have too speak the language of the native american tribe in the area that we've taken over i live in america and im not proud i mean f.uck america were evil controlling and arrogant we drive out millions of indians just so we can modernize. and then of course our nations presidents have sent them into camps, sent smallpox diseased blankets to them to kill them off.
the same thing has been done in both americas aswell as australia and new zealand, i think that central and south america ( except brasil ) were just lucky they had a much bigger indian population, that's why their culture survived ( Peru even has the indian language as an official language! ), also toledo was the first indian to be elected president in Peru, the indians ( or native americans , which ever way you prefer it ) are coming back in style, also, watch out, i hear the population of native americans in the US is growing steadily so watch out!
also, about the language thing, i think sikoholickkouboi's opinion is only valid when it comes to immigrants, i don't think that the indigenous minorities should learn how to speak the language of the majority ( the indians in mexico for example, the basks in spain and so forth....)
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Old 08-17-2005, 03:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Americans are a bunch of arrogant elitist pigs. Did we care what language that Mexicans spoke when we stole a large portion of their country away from them and made it ours. Some of you act like English is the indigenous language of this country. There's not a Mexican alive that doesn't have more of a right to be here than any so-called American does.
Elitist pigs? Generalize much? I hate Bush and the stereotypical average dumb American and ignorance as much as many and am liberal in many views (more in the middle actually). I even would have rather died as a "race traitor" with the Indians had I lived way back then, and still died with self-respect. Truth be told, I'm all for a universal language, but until that happens, it should be seen as a sign of respect to know at least enough to converse with what the majority of the nation speaks as a common language in most businesses and public places. If many Americans moved to France, and somehow figured a way to milk the system, but wanted no part in being "multicultural" or learning anything about them or their country even including enough French language to just say a few things, I would most definitely not expect them to start kissing our @sses (we'd be demonified). How come we never see "English or Japanese?" questions anywhere since they at least try to fit in more often or act like they give a damn to AND usually don't come here illegally?

Regardless of America's f*cked up pastEnglish may as well be an indigenous language here, like Spanish would be in their home nation. Many Mexicans and even many other non-Mexican minorities come here and learn at least that much. If they are a tourist, it's different, otherwise they should be treated as EQUAL citizens including taxation. I would like to see the Native Americans be given back a lot more than what they have. And I never said that Mexicans didn't have as much right to be here. Just learn to communicate with people like say, me, if you are going to live and work here. Be multicultural. I'd have no problem, the other way around, whatsoever.

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i don't think that the indigenous minorities should learn how to speak the language of the majority
I fully agree there. I just meant immigrants to "foreign lands", though.
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Old 08-17-2005, 04:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
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^totally agree. bush pays lip service to protecting our borders, but when it comes to mexico hes all buddy buddy w/vicente fox(mexico's president) for some reason. im a bush supporter, but he has definitely fallen short on this issue.
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^ far too true.

I have plenty of Spanish friends. They have come here legally and are currently learning English and adopting American customs while at the same time exposing me to Mexican, el Salvadorian, and Columbian culture. that's how it should be.
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Old 08-17-2005, 04:49 PM   #25 (permalink)
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well im half hispanic, my dad came to america, legally, from colombia wen he was 4 or 5, and evry single person in his family learned to speak english, a lot of his family came here... BUT i dun think that evry immigrant should learn to speak english, if they wanna learn they should learn, but if they dun who cares, its there problem, pretty soon the minority will be whitey...
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^ haha im gonna move to fu,cking canada cause i hate america
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:03 PM   #27 (permalink)
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well im half hispanic, my dad came to america, legally, from colombia wen he was 4 or 5, and evry single person in his family learned to speak english, a lot of his family came here... BUT i dun think that evry immigrant should learn to speak english, if they wanna learn they should learn, but if they dun who cares, its there problem, pretty soon the minority will be whitey...
Yes, well most BLACKS here speak ENGLISH, too, today. It's not just a "white thing", it's a popular language thing. So, you don't think immigrants to OTHER nations shouldn't bother to learn the language as newcomers or does this JUST apply to America? We'll just have to disagree here, I guess. I think you're blinded by your rage against "the white man". Newsflash. Just because the powerful ones have f*cked things up, not ALL of us (esp. mid-to-lower class) are bad. If you wanna say "whitey" because of slaveowners and Nazis and history, you can say "n!ggers" because of gangbanging pimps and friendly neighborhood drug dealers. Ignorant stereotypes apply to ALL races. I wouldn't piss on a country that let me get away with so much **** on a silver platter like the Mexicans do, though. So, you hate whitey (sorry about some **** before I was born that I had nothing to do with and can't change- oh yeah- skin color don't link me to those idiots, so NO I DON'T!) "Do it for the BLACK English speaking Americans" then. LOL.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:27 PM   #28 (permalink)
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And regardless of whether you think immigrants should learn the new language of wherever, I think that AMERICA shouldn't cater to anyone who doesn't give a damn about the country. So, some of you just wanna bitch about what's wrong with America. If they're against it, they could help the liberals here FIGHT for change if they just learned the language. I'm not saying it should be a necessity for every immigrant to learn (though they should if they're gonna live here), but when so many come here just to rape the system and basically be anti-social and not contribute anything, we shouldn't cater to or encourage them so much to keep coming and going. No special treatment is all I'm saying.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Noone said anything about my comment on Asians. There are MANY Asians here too. Why are we not catering to them, too?
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i think you have a lot of surpressed anger , for someone living in such a culturaly diverse country you have a lot of problems with a lot of races and nationalities....and i think it's fairly obvious, despite your PC retoric, that you are a frustrated white surpremasist....
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