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Trollheart · 02-28-2023, 07:47 PM

I agree, as I said. I'm just saying that the title, the headline, misrepresents the actual crime. I don't have an opinion on whether trans people who commit crimes should be incarcerated in men's or women's prisons - I really don't know, and I agree with you that it could be problematical either way. All I'm concerned with though is that the headline is clickbait and will attract the far right crowd and the hatemongers and they'll all point the finger.

SGR · 02-28-2023, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Now stay with me. The thing the article is pearl clutching about is the possibility of this trans woman raping other women in prison. If pressed the writer would presumably claim she was not bigoted towards trans people and only concerned with public safety. Therefore for them to not just be a bigot they should also be concerned with rape in prison in general.

yeah, my money's on the writer doesn't give a **** about dudes raping other dudes in prison.

03-05-2023, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

My point is that if they're so concerned with prison rape and not just fear mongering about trans people that they should also care about rape in men's prisons.

isn't the entire reason they segregate the prisons into different sexes based on the presumption that the men pose a threat to the women?

03-05-2023, 11:51 PM

I feel like the prison thing is somewhat reasonable especially since you are dealing with criminals. They shouldn't go to men's prison either though. We need to build a new trans only super-prison with separate wingsv for all 72+ genders and send all of the nation's trans convicts to that one facility. It's the only reasonable solution.

I do think with the bathroom thing though l feel like people are full of **** when they pretend it's about safety since if it was we would have young boys use the women's room since it's obviously safer. Instead we send them into the piss soaked lion's den that is the public men's room.

WWWP · 03-05-2023, 11:54 PM

I remember my little cousin’s were timed when they went to the bathroom at McDonalds or something. My aunt was like “if they’re not back in five minutes I’m going in.” Even then I remember thinking about all that could happen in five minutes in a men’s room.

03-06-2023, 01:33 AM

The Batlord · 03-06-2023, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

isn't the entire reason they segregate the prisons into different sexes based on the presumption that the men pose a threat to the women?

I'd be willing to put $5 down on it being a Victorian era prude thing about fraternization.

03-06-2023, 01:03 PM

Big spender over here.

The Batlord · 03-06-2023, 01:44 PM

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Big spender over here.

I mean come on they invented Corn Flakes to stop mental patients from masturbating cause that was apparently the most pressing concern. Do you really think the people who created the modern prison system were more concerned with safety than regulating the morality of the underclasses?

03-06-2023, 02:04 PM

Maybe not but i just think all those forms of sexual segregation are in place to protect women, not men. Maybe the original rationale was different but if we were to debate getting rid of those forms of segregation today the arguments in favor of not doing so would all center around either protecting women from men physically or giving them their own sports leagues so they can compete, etc.

02-28-2023, 07:47 PM	#1591 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	I agree, as I said. I'm just saying that the title, the headline, misrepresents the actual crime. I don't have an opinion on whether trans people who commit crimes should be incarcerated in men's or women's prisons - I really don't know, and I agree with you that it could be problematical either way. All I'm concerned with though is that the headline is clickbait and will attract the far right crowd and the hatemongers and they'll all point the finger. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

03-05-2023, 11:51 PM	#1594 (permalink)
jwb Guest Posts: n/a	I feel like the prison thing is somewhat reasonable especially since you are dealing with criminals. They shouldn't go to men's prison either though. We need to build a new trans only super-prison with separate wingsv for all 72+ genders and send all of the nation's trans convicts to that one facility. It's the only reasonable solution. I do think with the bathroom thing though l feel like people are full of **** when they pretend it's about safety since if it was we would have young boys use the women's room since it's obviously safer. Instead we send them into the piss soaked lion's den that is the public men's room.

03-06-2023, 01:33 AM	#1596 (permalink)
jwb Guest Posts: n/a

03-06-2023, 01:03 PM	#1598 (permalink)
jwb Guest Posts: n/a	Big spender over here.

03-06-2023, 02:04 PM	#1600 (permalink)
jwb Guest Posts: n/a	Maybe not but i just think all those forms of sexual segregation are in place to protect women, not men. Maybe the original rationale was different but if we were to debate getting rid of those forms of segregation today the arguments in favor of not doing so would all center around either protecting women from men physically or giving them their own sports leagues so they can compete, etc.