Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-30-2018, 12:05 AM   #191 (permalink)
Key
hi
 
Key's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,398
Default

I just like living in reality.
__________________

CWH
Key is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 12:09 AM   #192 (permalink)
Put The Cult In Culture
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,494
Default

How come nobody brings up the fact that everything you do is a reaction to something as a way to debunk free will? Every decision comes from a complicated chain reaction already set in motion. So how could it really be free will if it's been influenced?

Though, perhaps the idea of free will is just way too abstract for us to truly comprehend. Kind of like infinity. We have a basic grasp of what infinity and free will are, but we don't really have the ability to truly understand either.

Edit: What would be an example of something that doesn't have free will for us to compare to?

Edit again: But if free will doesn't exist then how could you believe in morality? If free will isn't real then nothing is good, bad, wrong or right. They just are. You don't do bad, you don't do good, you just do accordingly to the cosmic algorithm.
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.

Last edited by Lucem Ferre; 08-30-2018 at 12:18 AM.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 12:12 AM   #193 (permalink)
Put The Cult In Culture
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,494
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiiii View Post
I just like living in reality.
#metoo
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 12:37 AM   #194 (permalink)
- ) ) < > ( ( -
 
WWWP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,488
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre View Post
How come nobody brings up the fact that everything you do is a reaction to something as a way to debunk free will? Every decision comes from a complicated chain reaction already set in motion. So how could it really be free will if it's been influenced?

Though, perhaps the idea of free will is just way too abstract for us to truly comprehend. Kind of like infinity. We have a basic grasp of what infinity and free will are, but we don't really have the ability to truly understand either.

Edit: What would be an example of something that doesn't have free will for us to compare to?

Edit again: But if free will doesn't exist then how could you believe in morality? If free will isn't real then nothing is good, bad, wrong or right. They just are. You don't do bad, you don't do good, you just do accordingly to the cosmic algorithm.
yeah that's called determinism
__________________
wwwp makes you a playlist pt. 1
wwwp makes you a playlist pt. 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre View Post
church is still boring even with Kanye.
WWWP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 12:43 AM   #195 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Aalborg
Posts: 7,636
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre View Post
How come nobody brings up the fact that everything you do is a reaction to something as a way to debunk free will? Every decision comes from a complicated chain reaction already set in motion. So how could it really be free will if it's been influenced?

Though, perhaps the idea of free will is just way too abstract for us to truly comprehend. Kind of like infinity. We have a basic grasp of what infinity and free will are, but we don't really have the ability to truly understand either.

Edit: What would be an example of something that doesn't have free will for us to compare to?

Edit again: But if free will doesn't exist then how could you believe in morality? If free will isn't real then nothing is good, bad, wrong or right. They just are. You don't do bad, you don't do good, you just do accordingly to the cosmic algorithm.
My answer would be that, since we don't have any choice but to live as if we have free will, it doesn't matter if we really do or not.
MicShazam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 01:19 AM   #196 (permalink)
All day jazz and biscuits
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 40,199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MicShazam View Post
My answer would be that, since we don't have any choice but to live as if we have free will, it doesn't matter if we really do or not.
Like OH said, living as if you don't believe in freewill is an existential dead end so acting like you do is simply the only thing you can do.
__________________
BRING ME THE HORIZON >>>> CHARLES MINGUS
i
The Batlord is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 02:10 AM   #197 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
[MERIT]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 4,811
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Sexy View Post
I'll bet she doesn't let her baby daddy see his kid too.
You are WAY out out line here buddy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk View Post
Merits just saying no one should just stand aside and be a victim
#QuotedForTruth

Okay guys, riddle me this. If a couple approaches a women and asks her to watch them have sex and she agrees. Is she now TWICE the victim as in the Louic C.K. situation, since it was 2 people that she agreed to watch fornicate?
[MERIT] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 02:46 AM   #198 (permalink)
Put The Cult In Culture
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,494
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MicShazam View Post
My answer would be that, since we don't have any choice but to live as if we have free will, it doesn't matter if we really do or not.
Because the cosmic algorithm has programmed us to believe in freewill, so all though it doesn't exist, we must follow the illusion unquestionably to fulfill our inherently meaningless destiny.

All explained in Gucci Gang if you just gave it a listen.
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 02:54 AM   #199 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
[MERIT]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 4,811
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre View Post
Because the cosmic algorithm has programmed us to believe in freewill, so all though it doesn't exist, we must follow the illusion unquestionably to fulfill our inherently meaningless destiny.

All explained in Gucci Gang if you just gave it a listen.
Bro, if you want some philosophy, have you tried Kant, Socrates, Aristotle, Decsartes, Nietzsche, Plato, Sartre Camus, Russell, Confucius, Voltaire, Lao Tzu?

Don't base your morals off of Gucci Gang.

Last edited by [MERIT]; 08-30-2018 at 03:12 AM.
[MERIT] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2018, 03:09 AM   #200 (permalink)
.
 
grindy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: .
Posts: 6,486
Default

*Nietzsche
*Descartes
*Confucius
*Russell
__________________
A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.
grindy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2019 Advameg, Inc.