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Trollheart 05-08-2021 09:34 AM

Reports of the death of this forum are premature and exaggerated
 
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Look, everyone knows this place is not as active as it used to be. Many members have gone, for various reasons - I only came back relatively recently after a protracted absence - and the interaction between those left is less than it used to be. Drama doesn't seem to flare up much now (and though most of the time this was a pain in the arse it could in some ways be cited as the lifeblood of a thriving forum: if people care there's argument which often leads to drama etc) and in general the impression is that a lot of people are sitting around, doing other stuff, occasionally checking in, checking back out.

It's not as it used to be, that's certain.

But these reports of the forum being dead are just not accurate. If the forum were dead there'd be no discussion, and you only have to look at the pages to see how recently threads have been posted in. Anyone looking for debate or even a knock-down fight can head to the journals section, where you can butt heads with me about anything from Irish history and the relevance of Iron Maiden to vampires and serial killers, animation and exploration, and there's Soundgarden's underrated albums, Marie's Riot Grrrl journal, Key's tireless and very interesting work, the always fascinating and different world of innerspaceboy and a whole lot more. Absolutely everyone writing a journal, I can guarantee you, would love comment, discussion, debate or some interest to be taken in what they write.

Those who claim the forum is dead are, in my opinion, the laziest members and the least willing to contribute. If something is wrong, don't just sit there bitching about it. Do something. Make a thread. Take part in one, or more. Start a journal. Run a ****ing pub quiz about hip-hop or jazz, write about your pet lizard. Get up off your arse and kick life into the forum; if you think it's dying, administer CPR.

Or, you know, just grumble and moan and get the candles ready for the wake. I suppose at least there'll be beer.

There's nothing more annoying than insects that keep buzzing in your face. But almost as annoying is people whining about how bad things are without having the balls to actually do something about it.

So either stop whinging if you're going to do nothing and accept the place is not dead even if you think it is, or join in and help keep us a least a shadow of what we used to be.

There's life in the old forum yet.

Tristan_Geoff 05-08-2021 11:49 AM

I think we shud have a forum meetup in Amsterdam after covid :)))

jwb 05-08-2021 11:55 AM

Too lazy to read this long winded eulogy lol

Rip musicbanter

jwb 05-08-2021 12:17 PM

In all seriousness... As far as"getting off my ass" I have other priorities besides creating forum content

I'm training at work to operate and it's exhausting with the schedule and when I do feel like doing something creative with my free time I either work on this story I'm writing or play chess or something. It just is what it is.

I'm not even so much complaining the forum is dead just pointing it out when you guys complain about discussions you don't care about or which seem redundant and repetitive. It's the same old arguments with the same old people cause the forum isn't that active. And it's on your radar so much once again cause the forum isn't that active. I would've never noticed the debate happening in the missing posters thread if it wasn't one of the most active discussions on the forum at that time. That's my only point. It doesn't bother me so much.. You guys who wanted it to stop are the ones who actually have a problem with the state of things. And even though the discussion stopped immediately you guys kept bitching about it and reviving it for another 10 pages lol

Tldr every time you point the finger there are 3 pointing back at you! :shycouch:

SGR 05-08-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2172047)
I'm not even so much complaining the forum is dead just pointing it out when you guys complain about discussions you don't care about or which seem redundant and repetitive. It's the same old arguments with the same old people cause the forum isn't that active. And it's on your radar so much once again cause the forum isn't that active. I would've never noticed the debate happening in the missing posters thread if it wasn't one of the most active discussions on the forum at that time. That's my only point. It doesn't bother me so much.. You guys who wanted it to stop are the ones who actually have a problem with the state of things. And even though the discussion stopped immediately you guys kept bitching about it and reviving it for another 10 pages lol

I mean...you're not wrong.

At the same time, I get what TH is trying to say (and thanks for the plug on my journal, you wonderful human, you). Sadly, I don't know if us folks creating more content is going to reverse the course of things at all. I think we all know we need new blood - fresh meat - to liven things up around here. MB has become, in some ways, the same group of 10 - 15 people talkin **** about the same things.

Out of curiosity, anyone remember how many mods there were on MB around 2010? I betcha it was more than 3.

DianneW 05-08-2021 03:19 PM

Freaks......?

Lisnaholic 05-08-2021 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2172033)

I'm intrigued by this gif that comes without explanation, Trollheart !

At a glance, he looks busy and yet the guy never achieves the laying of one single brick; is it some metaphor about the slow pace of MB these days ? ;)

SGR 05-08-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2172067)
Freaks......?

Welcome to the party, pal.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2172068)
At a glance, he looks busy and yet the guy never achieves the laying of one single brick; is it some metaphor about the slow pace of MB these days ? ;)

No. He was the foreman of Trump's wall construction during 2016-2020.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2172065)
I think the reason most of us post here is precisely because it's a small crowd we've formed some kind of freak relationship with

What you and Batlord do behind closed doors is none of my business.

Marie Monday 05-08-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2172067)
Freaks......?

yes. A dysfunctional insular freak family, a kind of folie à dix (although I'm pretty sure we have at least ~20 semi-regular members)
but Elph is right, if this place was large I wouldn't waste time here

DianneW 05-08-2021 05:17 PM

but freak is not fitting at all if you take it as real..

maybe I am taking it too seriously but freaked out now...

https://www.google.com/search?q=frea...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Marie Monday 05-08-2021 05:50 PM

this used to be a normal, respectable forum but things haven't been the same since we lost our Freak Fighter

Trollheart 05-08-2021 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2172045)
Too lazy to read this long winded eulogy lol

Rip musicbanter

Says it all really, though I expected it to be Batty who posted that. He's obviously not even bothered responding. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2172059)
I mean...you're not wrong.

At the same time, I get what TH is trying to say (and thanks for the plug on my journal, you wonderful human, you). Sadly, I don't know if us folks creating more content is going to reverse the course of things at all. I think we all know we need new blood - fresh meat - to liven things up around here. MB has become, in some ways, the same group of 10 - 15 people talkin **** about the same things.

Out of curiosity, anyone remember how many mods there were on MB around 2010? I betcha it was more than 3.

You're welcome. More people should read your writing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2172068)
I'm intrigued by this gif that comes without explanation, Trollheart !

At a glance, he looks busy and yet the guy never achieves the laying of one single brick; is it some metaphor about the slow pace of MB these days ? ;)

It's because I'm always being accused (rightly) of writing walls of text, so I started off with a builder making one.
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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2172075)
yes. A dysfunctional insular freak family, a kind of folie à dix (although I'm pretty sure we have at least ~20 semi-regular members)
but Elph is right, if this place was large I wouldn't waste time here

Agreed
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Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2172087)
but freak is not fitting at all if you take it as real..

maybe I am taking it too seriously but freaked out now...

https://www.google.com/search?q=frea...hrome&ie=UTF-8

We're all freaks here. Who wants to be normal?

Exo 05-08-2021 06:45 PM

I still read almost every day after 10+ years. My modding has dipped a bit since I've been so busy but the decrease in activity means that the slack gets picked up quite easily. TH's idea of having journal posts without mod approval helped with this too. The report button is useful. I don't need to be here every day...

Yet I am for the most part.

I've been sharing music a hell of a lot more than I used too. I used to just be a lounge lizard but now I like to share sh*t I find. This is the new chapter for me besides occasionally dealing with some drama sh*t on here.

I miss OH but the drama is gone honestly.

I suppose I'll be here for the long haul.

jwb 05-08-2021 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2172097)
Says it all really, though I expected it to be Batty who posted that. He's obviously not even bothered responding. :)

Was just a joke response based on your passive aggressive "the types of people who say this are the laziest xzy....." line

Don't take everything so serious pal :)

Norg 05-08-2021 07:40 PM

wasent there a post awhile ago that showed that in like 6 years this Internet dominion of this website would expire so yes.... the hourglass sands of time are currently running ....

SGR 05-08-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2172136)
wasent there a post awhile ago that showed that in like 6 years this Internet dominion of this website would expire so yes.... the hourglass sands of time are currently running ....

Norg teaches DNS.

Norg 05-08-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2172145)
Norg teaches DNS.

programming and coding Bae bee from the OG windows 95 till Now

B+
C+++

jwb 05-08-2021 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2172136)
wasent there a post awhile ago that showed that in like 6 years this Internet dominion of this website would expire so yes.... the hourglass sands of time are currently running ....

very poetic, Norg

adidasss 05-08-2021 08:27 PM

Discussions or complaints about how MB is dead have been going on practically since its beginning (if you do a search for "forum is dead", the first threads start popping up in 2005).

Maybe there is an objective way to judge if the activity has gotten lower which would dispell any doubts, but frankly it doesn't matter. As many people point out, it is what you make of it.

Maybe some people expect more immediate interaction, or more detailed interaction or more interesting debates. Those same people should then definitely try and start some interesting discussions.

My approach to the forum at the moment is actually to avoid long and drawn out debates. It requires a hell of a lot of time and I guess I'd rather be doing something else than arguing over the internet. Them days are long past. If you have a job and a life, then your forum activity is definitely not gonna be very involved.

So in that sense, MB is actually perfect for me. It's not boring because within a span of 24h, normally there are at least one or two pages of threads with new posts in it. Anything more than that and it becomes cumbersome. So for me, the size and activity level is perfect.

It will be curious to see if this forum will ever truly die, apart from the owners pulling the plug. I'm a little fascinated that in this day and age there are still new people, some of which quite young, signing up because they wanna talk about music. It's pretty amazing. Let's see how it goes. It's clear that I, much like Exo, am here for the long haul.

Norg 05-08-2021 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2172149)
very poetic, Norg


gracias


were yall ever on the Gamespot Systemwars forms back in 1999 talk about debate or fighting trash talking to a hole new level LOL it was like XBL before XBL

jwb 05-08-2021 09:01 PM

I didn't have a computer in 1999. Most of America didn't either.

Trollheart 05-08-2021 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2172133)
Was just a joke response based on your passive aggressive "the types of people who say this are the laziest xzy....." line

Don't take everything so serious pal :)

God you're easier to wind up than I am. I could be your Batlord. ;)
(There's a frightening thought...)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2172136)
wasent there a post awhile ago that showed that in like 6 years this Internet dominion of this website would expire so yes.... the hourglass sands of time are currently running ....

I guess you mean domain; the Dominion is run by shapeshifters and soldiers controlled by drugs. No, not the US Govt.

jwb 05-08-2021 09:32 PM

Easier to wind up than batlord... Yeah you only have to make a tldr op thread post with a massive essay to get me to make a stupid one liner response. You're really the master manipulator aren't you TH :laughing: :shycouch:

Marie Monday 05-09-2021 04:05 AM

'the forum is dying' is the mb version of 'back in my day' :rolleyes:

The Batlord 05-09-2021 04:42 AM

It's probably the second post.

Trollheart 05-09-2021 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2172159)
Easier to wind up than batlord... Yeah you only have to make a tldr op thread post with a massive essay to get me to make a stupid one liner response. You're really the master manipulator aren't you TH :laughing: :shycouch:

I said you're easier to wind up than me, dumbass. Read it again.
Batty winds me up, so therefore I said I could be your... ah you know what, fergit it. I tried so hard,
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lRsxKXUl8WM/hqdefault.jpg

jwb 05-09-2021 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2172192)
I said you're easier to wind up than me, dumbass. Read it again.
Batty winds me up, so therefore I said I could be your... ah you know what, fergit it. I tried so hard,
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lRsxKXUl8WM/hqdefault.jpg

too much tequila

Btw "I could be your batlord" is easily the creepiest pick up line I've ever had thrown my way :shycouch:

Psy-Fi 05-09-2021 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2172220)
Btw "I could be your batlord" is easily the creepiest pick up line I've ever had thrown my way :shycouch:


YorkeDaddy 05-09-2021 11:50 AM

I feel like I'm one of the few that actually tries to get things happening around here, but then inevitably I always get too busy or some other hobby comes up and I can't consistently devote the time to keep doing whatever I started. But hey at least I try. And that's why I am clearly mod worthy, YD for Mod 2021 and every single year after that bitches

Mucha na Dziko 05-09-2021 12:21 PM

I just joined today looking for some sort of an online music community, so I hope it's not as dead as you guys seem to say it is

Marie Monday 05-09-2021 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2172228)
I feel like I'm one of the few that actually tries to get things happening around here, but then inevitably I always get too busy or some other hobby comes up and I can't consistently devote the time to keep doing whatever I started. But hey at least I try. And that's why I am clearly mod worthy, YD for Mod 2021 and every single year after that bitches

https://i.imgur.com/WwVnbKu.png

anyway, your initiatives to make something happen here are great. keep up the good work

Trollheart 05-09-2021 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2172220)
too much tequila

Btw "I could be your batlord" is easily the creepiest pick up line I've ever had thrown my way :shycouch:

Oh you know you love it really.
Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2172228)
I feel like I'm one of the few that actually tries to get things happening around here, but then inevitably I always get too busy or some other hobby comes up and I can't consistently devote the time to keep doing whatever I started. But hey at least I try. And that's why I am clearly mod worthy, YD for Mod 2021 and every single year after that bitches

I would agree. You've made a lot of effort here recently. There is no way on God's green earth that you should ever be a mod though, no more than I should. Can you imagine?
https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Zt...o6Qg/giphy.gif

Lucem Ferre 05-09-2021 05:54 PM

The only thing premature about this forum was OH's ejaculation from it.

jwb 05-09-2021 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2172294)
Oh you know you love it really.

The theme for next weekend's 6 pack should be consent.

TheBig3 05-09-2021 05:58 PM

I came to this forum in 2004 after the previous forum I was on died. The owners pulled the plug for whatever reason. I still think about that place.

I posted daily on MB for years, and I had some good fun here. If it dies, we'll all move on and it will be fine. Just enjoy it while it lasts. And if you really want to do something for the boards, post about music.

Trollheart 05-09-2021 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2172319)
The only thing premature about this forum was OH's ejaculation from it.

I think that was what got him into trouble in the first place.

I assume you meant ejection? :pssst:

SGR 05-09-2021 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2172341)
I think that was what got him into trouble in the first place.

I assume you meant ejection? :pssst:

No, I think he definitely meant ejaculation.

Trollheart 05-09-2021 08:34 PM

That boy ain't right.

SGR 05-09-2021 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2172361)
That boy ain't right.

Ah, he's alright. It gave me a chuckle.

YorkeDaddy 05-10-2021 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2172256)
https://i.imgur.com/WwVnbKu.png

anyway, your initiatives to make something happen here are great. keep up the good work

How have you not gathered by now that the mod campaigning is sarcastic

You think I actually want to devote any time and energy to that ****?!


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