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Marie Monday 05-25-2021 06:13 AM

'What are you studying? String theory? Omg is that about musical instruments, that's so cool!'
Tbh that was too sweet and endearing to be annoying

Trollheart 05-25-2021 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2174254)
Is it a mango thing or a Malaysian thing? Why does Ireland hate Malaysians?

I'm pretty sure that, if you check my History of Ireland journal, when Henry the Optical Illusion, King of England, Ireland, France, Spain, Germany, Wales, Scotland, The Isle of Man, One Little Island Just North of the Hebrides, The Rock of Gibraltar, Most of Africa Except for Ninety-Eight Percent of It And Anywhere He Damn Well Pleases (normally known as Henry the III) invaded England, his soldiers were armed with mangoes which they viciously attacked the Irish with. We had only Potatoes to fight back with and you know what they say - Mangoes where the gang goes, Spud are for duds.

To demonstrate his complete contempt of the Irish, in 1132 Henry actually appointed a large Mango as Governor General of Ireland. Its policies were something of a disaster, and its parliament was completely rotten.

We Irish do not forget.

#DownWithMangoes
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2174255)
In short he wanted "to boldly go where no mangoes gone before."

Brilliant! :clap: :laughing:
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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2174261)
#justice4mangoes!!

#DownWithMangoes
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2174288)
Jesus. I could tell you that as an eight-year-old without a college degree.

Yeah well as they're part of the animal kingdom... not sure they're much fun though.

The Batlord 05-25-2021 06:23 AM

Wouldn't "To boldly go where no mangoes before" be a better pun?

Trollheart 05-25-2021 06:41 AM

#MangoMicks

Guybrush 05-25-2021 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2174290)
'What are you studying? String theory? Omg is that about musical instruments, that's so cool!'
Tbh that was too sweet and endearing to be annoying

At least they didn't think it was thong theory :)

By the way, cool to have a physicist on board! I occasionally pretend like I know anything about physics. This is gonna sound stupid, but you'd be surprised at how often creationists bring up that evolution and the various molecules and so on that are shaped by that are a violation of the second law of thermodynamics (entropy).. and so while trying to refute those kinds of arguments, I kinda wish I'd taken a course or three. Biology had maths and chemistry, but not much physics.

Marie Monday 05-25-2021 11:27 AM

lmao that's a new one to me. If you come across any nice specimens of discussions on the topic do share them; I'd actually be interested in seeing what kind of misguided thought acrobatics they use to come up with their arguments

Edit: this got me thinking and I suppose they base their argument on the fact that they've heard that entropy will eventually cause the universe to be an atom soup that is the same everywhere? Which makes them think new DNA combinations violate entropy? In that case what they don't understand is that entropy tends towards randomness, but that's not necessarily sameness. To use an example that I've been working on, if you align molecules they're all pointing in the same direction, but the randomness is reduced, so it comes at an entropy cost. The analogy with our genes is shaky at best anyway, but even if we viewed all the world's genes as a communal DNA soup, enforcing that everyone has the same DNA is actually less random and goes against the entropy principle

Guybrush 05-25-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2174326)
I'd actually be interested in seeing what kind of misguided thought acrobatics they use to come up with their arguments

Like any good biologist should, I've tried to fight Darwin's good fight, battling ignorance and teaching people about evolutionary theory online. I've done it in various places. The last place I did it regularly was quora. The place is ripe with religious nuts. Someone can ask an innocent question about some aspect about evolution and you can be sure to find religious idiots invading comments. They really hound any discussion on the subject.

A few classics that I see again and again:
  • Conceding that sure, evolution happens on the MICRO-level, but not on the macro-level (micro/macro-evolution isn't really a thing)
  • Evolution is just a theory
  • Evolution would break the second law of thermodynamics
  • There's no fossil evidence. Where is it?!
  • There's no evidence of a species turning into a different species
  • That something as complex as the eye could not have evolved due to irreducible complexity (thoroughly refuted many times and long ago)
I got a little burnt out, so I haven't been doing it as much lately (came here instead). However, next time I find one of these idiots, I'll give you a nudge :)

rostasi 05-25-2021 11:59 AM

Why seek out people who have mental disabilities in order to have arguments with them?
(yeah, I know: irony!)

Guybrush 05-26-2021 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2174336)
Why seek out people who have mental disabilities in order to have arguments with them?

Sadly, even if you don't want to, you'll probably find yourself having arguments just because loud idiots show up any time something relating to evolution is discussed.

Empirically based knowledge seems to be on a downwards trend in general. I saw the Q-anon documentary on HBO. It's scary how lies, myth and conspiracy theory just seem to spread like a wildfire, especially in the US. So many people don't know what's real anymore.

The Batlord 05-26-2021 05:16 AM

Yeah I've had several COVID hoax conversations with people at work and I'm almost waiting for COVID to kick that store in the balls just so I get to be right.


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