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View Poll Results: DO YOU SUPPORT BUSH AND THE WAR?
I DO SUPPORT BUSH AND THE WAR. 4 9.30%
I DO NOT SUPPORT BUSH AND THE WAR 39 90.70%
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:09 PM   #51 (permalink)
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you should "not post in it" if you don't care.
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:11 PM   #52 (permalink)
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are any of you even old enough to vote? and if you are, did you vote?
I voted for Kerry. I would've voted for a steaming pile of dog**** over that beady-eyed elitist fascist mother****er W. Everything he's done has been geared toward making his rich buddies richer at the expense of the working man. Can anybody say "Halliburton"? I could go on and on......
Old enough and did vote.

The point of my post was I just wanted to know who saw it. I love how just because the President is a certain party you don't pay attention to politics for 4 years?

Regardless of whether you like him or not, his actions have a large impact on what happens in this government for 4 years.

To the guy who said he didn't care to watch it....
He said some big...HUGE things, that could have a huge impact on taxes, etc. The fact that you pay no attention makes me think little of your opinion on politics. That was my other point in bringing it up. I didn't like Clinton, but I still tried to stay on top of everything that was going on. Sure it's scripted, every President and person who runs for President says scripted speeches, but regardless, it's some key stuff.
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:14 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I didn't need to see last nights presidential address, if you are impressed he got one off you're either very leanient, or you are not looking at the innumerate times the man can't spit out a coherent sentence. I don't want my president to be a role model, I want him intelligent.

/\ They just cut Exxonmobil (the richest companey ever and im not using hyberbolie) a tax break because of the Hurricane, and they don't want to spend money on fuel discovery.
Eh, the President is in many ways a figurehead. I would rather the cabinet and his advisors be a genius.

And tons of companies in the Gulf are getting tax breaks. That's a horrible example.
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:58 AM   #54 (permalink)
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He said exactly what the masses want to hear. And none of it was his. It's all scripted and provided by writers who's job it is to make him look like he gives a ****. Did you know that his buddies at Halli already have been awarded the contract (with no bids I might add) to repair / rebuild the military bases that were affected by Katrina? OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!

why wouldn't it be scripted? whens the last time you free styled a speech.

thats what i thought. and Haliburton after its enourmous screw ups in Iraq most assuradly will not recieve many if any reconstruction contracts.
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:19 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Eh, the President is in many ways a figurehead. I would rather the cabinet and his advisors be a genius.

And tons of companies in the Gulf are getting tax breaks. That's a horrible example.
A hirrid example, I don't care if tons are getting breaks, it doesn't make it right, and that they are the richest conglomorate ever makes it even worse.

How about the fact that he repealed a law that said rebuilding efforts have to pay works the prevailing wage in their are? Good enough? Not only did he not help anyone in the Gulf, but he completly f*cked the works who need the cash.
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:53 PM   #56 (permalink)
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A hirrid example, I don't care if tons are getting breaks, it doesn't make it right, and that they are the richest conglomorate ever makes it even worse.

How about the fact that he repealed a law that said rebuilding efforts have to pay works the prevailing wage in their are? Good enough? Not only did he not help anyone in the Gulf, but he completly f*cked the works who need the cash.
I'm just gonna laugh at that last paragraph. If you had watched the Presidential address, you would know that that is not true. In fact, he is going to make a works progress program similar to the largest works progress program our country has ever had, the one in the 1920's and 1930's that along with the World War was largely responsible for getting our country out of hte great depression. For a Republican President who has normally had a very hands-off policy, that is huge. This program is going to be big, and is going to cost lots of tax money. So "****ing the works who need the cash" is a joke. The entire area is going to be rebuilt by this program, along with upgrades, etc.

Also, the other thing that surprised me (since I know you didn't watch), with all the finger pointing that has been going on, President Bush actually took the responsibility for the problems that are going down on New Orleans. Even though afterwards they were speaking to people at the Astrodome asking them who they thought were responsible, and the overwhelming majority said the Mayor of New Orleans. Bush went on to say that (it's a rough quote) "it is Presidential for the problem and solution", admitting his fault in the situation.

Scripted or not, it was a very important speech, and it makes me laugh that all these people so much "into their government" pay no attention to things of this magnitude.
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:30 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Amen. I'll never get punk kids, I think their all kinda braindead.
its cause your running into brainwashed kids who think there so diffrent.Death of captilism would love bush if punk bands didnt hate him if rock against bush never came out and punk bands stayed out of bush's way he wouldnt care.
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I'm just gonna laugh at that last paragraph. If you had watched the Presidential address, you would know that that is not true. In fact, he is going to make a works progress program similar to the largest works progress program our country has ever had, the one in the 1920's and 1930's that along with the World War was largely responsible for getting our country out of hte great depression. For a Republican President who has normally had a very hands-off policy, that is huge. This program is going to be big, and is going to cost lots of tax money. So "****ing the works who need the cash" is a joke. The entire area is going to be rebuilt by this program, along with upgrades, etc.

Also, the other thing that surprised me (since I know you didn't watch), with all the finger pointing that has been going on, President Bush actually took the responsibility for the problems that are going down on New Orleans. Even though afterwards they were speaking to people at the Astrodome asking them who they thought were responsible, and the overwhelming majority said the Mayor of New Orleans. Bush went on to say that (it's a rough quote) "it is Presidential for the problem and solution", admitting his fault in the situation.

Scripted or not, it was a very important speech, and it makes me laugh that all these people so much "into their government" pay no attention to things of this magnitude.
i bet you go to rallies and chant " bush, bush!" , you seem very thrilled about this man,and i'm sorry, but as much as i think you're very intelligent, i have lost all respect for you, he is undoubtedly the dumbest president america has ever had.....
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i bet you go to rallies and chant " bush, bush!" , you seem very thrilled about this man,and i'm sorry, but as much as i think you're very intelligent, i have lost all respect for you, he is undoubtedly the dumbest president america has ever had.....
Dumbest thing I've ever read, since your Social D rant. He hasn't resorted to any sort of partisan rhetoric, yet you still accuse him of being some ultra conservative enthusiast. Don't let your pre-determined political preference get in the way of trying to look at issues and events for what they're worth.

The speech was good, especially considering how terrifying his speech writers have been in the past. He touched on the racial/social issue, AND he took full responsibility, something I don't think any of us expected. Both were probably unnecessary, but I'm assuming he needed something to resurrect him in the public polls.

Only thing left to be seen is where the admin is going to cut spending. For a Republican-dominated White House, they certainly haven't followed any precedent in terms of spending. When so much money and resources are overseas, it's kinda tough to take care of the problems at home.
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i bet you go to rallies and chant " bush, bush!" , you seem very thrilled about this man,and i'm sorry, but as much as i think you're very intelligent, i have lost all respect for you, he is undoubtedly the dumbest president america has ever had.....
Never been to a rally in my life. But thanks for the random accusation. You say something like that after I just say how I think he made a great speech, yet you've failed to even watch the speech or look up a written copy of the speech somewhere on the internet (since yes I know, you are in another country). Regardless of if you think he was an idiot, a fool, or an incompetent pos, it touched on a lot of topics that you wouldn't expect any President to take blame for, and other topics you wouldn't expect a conservative President to touch on as well.

As to Hookers, I think it's come down to a point where there isn't going to be a cut of spending somewhere else, but an increase of taxes. Which is gonna suck, but I don't see where money could be cut from with so much going on overseas.
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