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Old 01-31-2009, 04:03 AM   #1081 (permalink)
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Oh I downloaded those...will check them out soonish, even though I'm a little suspicious when it comes to such lenghty series...:\

OT: Haruki Murakami - Norwegian wood
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:13 AM   #1082 (permalink)
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There are several series within the Discworld series (The watch, the witches, Tiffany Aching, Moist Von Lipwig) and there are several stand-alone books as well, so .. the entry points are many.

You don't have to start with the Colour of Magic, his first book which I'll admit I consider rather weak compared to many of his others. I would suggest you start with perhaps .. Going postal, Guards! Guards!, Wyrd Sisters, The Wee Free Men ..

Books like Soul Music, Mort, Reaper Man, Pyramids, Small Gods, Monstrous Regiment and The Truth would also work as entry points, although some of these do have characters in them that appear in earlier books.
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Old 01-31-2009, 09:49 AM   #1083 (permalink)
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1984 is far more significant and important than anything Bradbury ever produced. How is it even a dry read? Because it isn't flowery Updikesque bullshit or what?
The film had no visceral style to it, Orwell was all ideas and no execution.
No real charm or pleasure in reading it, just simple and dry.

The theme and implications of 1984 are timeless true enough, but Bradbury is a better writer. I guess enjoyment in the process of storytelling is something you tight-ass literary elite pricks, wouldn't know **** about.

I suggest a healthy helping of Edgar Rice Burroughs, Miyazki, and Tezuka.

And Ethan, John Updike hasn't been dead that long, show the man some respect asswipe.
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:47 AM   #1084 (permalink)
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The film had no visceral style to it, Orwell was all ideas and no execution.
No real charm or pleasure in reading it, just simple and dry.

The theme and implications of 1984 are timeless true enough, but Bradbury is a better writer. I guess enjoyment in the process of storytelling is something you tight-ass literary elite pricks, wouldn't know **** about.
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He has a pretty distinctive writing style actually...
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:18 PM   #1085 (permalink)
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:28 PM   #1086 (permalink)
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The Book of Chuang Tzu... pretty sweet.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:28 PM   #1087 (permalink)
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The film had no visceral style to it, Orwell was all ideas and no execution.
No real charm or pleasure in reading it, just simple and dry.

The theme and implications of 1984 are timeless true enough, but Bradbury is a better writer. I guess enjoyment in the process of storytelling is something you tight-ass literary elite pricks, wouldn't know **** about.

I suggest a healthy helping of Edgar Rice Burroughs, Miyazki, and Tezuka.

And Ethan, John Updike hasn't been dead that long, show the man some respect asswipe.

Quit the name calling please. It is possible to have heated arguments without making derogatory comments.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:41 PM   #1088 (permalink)
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The film had no visceral style to it, Orwell was all ideas and no execution.
No real charm or pleasure in reading it, just simple and dry.

The theme and implications of 1984 are timeless true enough, but Bradbury is a better writer. I guess enjoyment in the process of storytelling is something you tight-ass literary elite pricks, wouldn't know **** about.

I suggest a healthy helping of Edgar Rice Burroughs, Miyazki, and Tezuka.

And Ethan, John Updike hasn't been dead that long, show the man some respect asswipe.
I didn't even know Updike died recently; either way you missed my point. Good writing is about ideas (after all this is what a story is) not about flowery descriptions and overusing metaphors. The point I was getting at with Updike is he IS all execution (and the quality of his execution is one that's up for debate) and as a result of this not a very good writer. But hey if phrases like "groaning concussions" and "tinkling shivers" make stories appear well-written to you than whatever, have fun with your imagery wanking.
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:30 PM   #1089 (permalink)
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Bomb, Book and Compass:

This book is about Joseph Needham, a legendary biochemist who fell in love with China, learned the language and was sent there on a mission during WW2. He devoted his life to the country and while he was there, wrote Science and Civilisation in China, an exhaustive history of Chinese science and technology by which he was captivated. Part of his motivation was to dispel the Western ignorance of Chinese development and give it the reputation it deserved... indeed as the title suggests, the bomb (gunpowder), the book (printing) and the compass amongst many other advances, were Chinese inventions.

I'm quite enjoying this book so far and it's interesting to consider just how starkly different China is to almost anywhere else.

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Old 01-31-2009, 04:26 PM   #1090 (permalink)
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I didn't even know Updike died recently; either way you missed my point. Good writing is about ideas (after all this is what a story is) not about flowery descriptions and overusing metaphors. The point I was getting at with Updike is he IS all execution (and the quality of his execution is one that's up for debate) and as a result of this not a very good writer. But hey if phrases like "groaning concussions" and "tinkling shivers" make stories appear well-written to you than whatever, have fun with your imagery wanking.
Execution in terms of directness and a subtle descriptive nuances, like Macdonald or Howard.

Good writing is about is a combination of light and sound, too much of just one and it's a flat essay.

Orwell had ideas, but no life to put in them. Good writing is transcending just letters on paper.

I apologise for my "derogatory" comments, insulting somebody after their death just gets at me. He didn't know however so it doesn't matter.
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