What's The Latest Film You Have Seen?

Key · 08-30-2016, 11:25 AM

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

It's a great movie, but is it also regarded as one of the creepiest movies ever made? When you think about it, Willy Wonka manipulates the people who made it into the factory to do things they're not supposed to and they never make it out of the factory alive. Willy Wonka never shows an ounce of emotion whenever this occurs, he just shrugs it off and continues with the tour. This is especially noticeable when it gets near the end and he doesn't even realize 90% of the group is missing, even though he watched them all fall to their imminent demise. Still a good movie though.

**Frownland** · 08-30-2016, 11:28 AM

^I don't think of Roald Dahl as a child-hating psychopath for no reason.

Key · 08-30-2016, 11:33 AM

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^I don't think of Roald Dahl as a child-hating psychopath for no reason.

I can see that. Still is a good movie though, but its way creepier when you watch it once you're older. Gene Wilder still nails it though.

**Frownland** · 08-30-2016, 11:36 AM

It didn't weird you out as a kid that most of the kids died?

Key · 08-30-2016, 11:38 AM

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It didn't weird you out as a kid that most of the kids died?

It hadn't occurred to me back then for some reason. I thought they had left the factory somehow. It clicked when I watched it a few years back and I was like "woah, hold on a minute." Now when I watch it, I can't help but think this is along the likes of a horror film, but in a much more subtle way.

Even though I like the Johnny Depp version as well, it took some of the creepy factor away when you find the kids walking out of the factory at the end.

JGuy Grungeman · 08-30-2016, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

It's a great movie, but is it also regarded as one of the creepiest movies ever made? When you think about it, Willy Wonka manipulates the people who made it into the factory to do things they're not supposed to and they never make it out of the factory alive. Willy Wonka never shows an ounce of emotion whenever this occurs, he just shrugs it off and continues with the tour. This is especially noticeable when it gets near the end and he doesn't even realize 90% of the group is missing, even though he watched them all fall to their imminent demise. Still a good movie though.

I can't tell if the never made it out alive part was serious or not. The joke was it seemed like they would die, but Wonka knew they wouldn't because it's just not something he would allow. That movie was one of the defining movies of my childhood and film buff history, and I never once got the idea the children never made it out alive. Didn't Wonka meniton that would all go home?

**Frownland** · 08-30-2016, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

I can't tell if the never made it out alive part was serious or not. The joke was it seemed like they would die, but Wonka knew they wouldn't because it's just not something he would allow. That movie was one of the defining movies of my childhood and film buff history, and I never once got the idea the children never made it out alive.

Fatty went to the incinerator, Violet got juiced (do you really think that sounds like something you can survive?), and Veruca also went to a furnace, but I guess Mike doesn't have fatality sewn into his karmic punishment.

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Didn't Wonka meniton that would all go home?

Who would ever lie about being involved in the deaths of children?

duga · 08-30-2016, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

I can't tell if the never made it out alive part was serious or not. The joke was it seemed like they would die, but Wonka knew they wouldn't because it's just not something he would allow. That movie was one of the defining movies of my childhood and film buff history, and I never once got the idea the children never made it out alive. Didn't Wonka meniton that would all go home?

I don't think it matters in the end...it was all in Charlie's head. It just so happens that Charlie finds a ticket right as we learn the fifth was forged? Yeah, right. His grandpa is bedridden, but now he is not only well enough to take Charlie to the factory, but he can dance around the room? Nope.

Charlie was depressed and needed an escape. He hated the actual kids who won, so in his fantasy they all died and he got to take over the factory.

Key · 08-30-2016, 03:03 PM

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I don't think it matters in the end...it was all in Charlie's head. It just so happens that Charlie finds a ticket right as we learn the fifth was forged? Yeah, right. His grandpa is bedridden, but now he is not only well enough to take Charlie to the factory, but he can dance around the room?

Charlie was depressed and needed an escape. He hated the actual kids who won, so in his fantasy they all died.

Woah.

And I just realized the line that the mom says when the fifth ticket was found.

"Let him have one last dream"

Holy ****.

duga · 08-30-2016, 03:10 PM

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Woah.

And I just realized the line that the mom says when the fifth ticket was found.

"Let him have one last dream"

Holy ****.

This is why the movie is a classic. As a kid's movie, I think it's average at best. As a mind**** of a movie, it's pure gold. There are too many clues pointing to too many theories to think that we are reading into some of this stuff. This was all intentional on the writers' parts.

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory It's a great movie, but is it also regarded as one of the creepiest movies ever made? When you think about it, Willy Wonka manipulates the people who made it into the factory to do things they're not supposed to and they never make it out of the factory alive. Willy Wonka never shows an ounce of emotion whenever this occurs, he just shrugs it off and continues with the tour. This is especially noticeable when it gets near the end and he doesn't even realize 90% of the group is missing, even though he watched them all fall to their imminent demise. Still a good movie though.