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Old 01-12-2020, 09:14 AM   #23271 (permalink)
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99.99999% of the time, yes.

To be fair, 1917 had good lighting so I give 1.5/10
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:15 AM   #23272 (permalink)
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So every film that uses war as part of its storyline is automatically a propaganda movie?
I mean, yeah
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:21 AM   #23273 (permalink)
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After 1917 I felt filthy, drained, and sad, which I believe was the intended message if there even was one

After most other war movies I felt like the message was “AMERICA **** YEAH WE ALWAYS WIN!!!!!” or something similar

1917 just seemed like a completely different kind of film to me. Frownland will probably just call me a sheep or something so I guess it is what it is
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:27 AM   #23274 (permalink)
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Were the soldier characters at all sympathetic? Boom: propaganda.

Dunkirke, Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, I'm always told "well this one's different!" but it's always the same message of war is always necessary but sometimes it makes our men sad.
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:36 AM   #23275 (permalink)
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Platoon is 100% bull**** propaganda. It played a big role in creating all the pro-war yellow ribbon mania during the first gulf war which led us into all this bull****.
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:38 AM   #23276 (permalink)
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Oh geez lol. I luved platoon.
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:41 AM   #23277 (permalink)
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The Nolan fanboy in me liked a lot about Dunkirk but I’m not a fan of the other movies in that category

There’s something to be said about the elegant micro-level storytelling and directing of 1917 that makes it feel like a movie about two dudes in a dangerous situation rather than a movie about war
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:48 PM   #23278 (permalink)
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I found the 2nd act to be quite a bit weaker than the rest. Main character runs through areas in a straight line while the Germans were like ****ing Stormtroopers missing point blank shots, it took me out of the experience a little bit because it was such a clear usage of plot armor.
I was too busy marveling at the lighting to be too bothered by the silliness of a trained soldier firing from the hip. It was a haunting, dreamlike sequence where showing a soldier clearly putting his rifle to his shoulder would have ruined the confusion for the sake of petty realism, whereas how it was done left you unsure and tense as to who that guy was until the gunshots rang out and the German screaming began. Easily my second favorite part of the movie behind the opening No Man's Land scene.

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I don't really care about the propaganda aspect as I'm not going to miss a bombass movie out of protest, but any movie that elevates soldiers and war (even by portraying it as hell) furthers the mythology of humanity's warrior fetish. Anti-war movies don't just teach people that war is bad, they teach that war is a transcendent experience that you are sheltered without.
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And Dunkirk was awesome.
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I don't really care about the propaganda aspect as I'm not going to miss a bombass movie out of protest, but any movie that elevates soldiers and war (even by portraying it as hell) furthers the mythology of humanity's warrior fetish. Anti-war movies don't just teach people that war is bad, they teach that war is a transcendent experience that you are sheltered without.
Kurt Vonnegut realised this, that's why Slaughterhouse Five is so great
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