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NSW 08-08-2008 09:16 PM

I for one loved this movie. I thought Heath Ledger and Aaron Eckhart both did a fabulous job. Christian Bale did a great job too...it seems like one of the reason people are criticizing his performance is because he was overshadowed by Heath Ledger (for whatever reason, be it his actual acting ability, or the fact that he died before the movie was released).

The "raspy voice" thing was necessary and part of the story, to keep his identity secret, right? I didn't find it distracting at all.

Whatsitoosit 08-11-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife (Post 504910)
The "raspy voice" thing was necessary and part of the story, to keep his identity secret, right? I didn't find it distracting at all.

Yeah it was necessary but the way it was executed in this film was more cheesy then previous attempts. Also, made it hard to understand at certain points in the film.

NSW 08-12-2008 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit (Post 505568)
Yeah it was necessary but the way it was executed in this film was more cheesy then previous attempts. Also, made it hard to understand at certain points in the film.

Did he do that in the first movie? I don't remember him doing that...just wondering.

I will agree with the cheese-factor. When I first heard him talk like that, I giggled a little. But then I just ignored it.

mamanuthead 08-12-2008 10:11 AM

I definitely need to see it on the big screen. The bootleg version on the comp sucked which made his voice even more annoying and hard to understand.

Whatsitoosit 08-12-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife (Post 505929)
Did he do that in the first movie? I don't remember him doing that...just wondering.

I will agree with the cheese-factor. When I first heard him talk like that, I giggled a little. But then I just ignored it.

I never saw the first one. I ignored it as well but the fact I realized it and had to ignore it bugged me. I'm a movie snob... I don't want to have to use my mental abilities for anything other then enjoying the film, don't make me have to filter out what the director should have done for me. Ok, I'm done.

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Originally Posted by mamanuthead (Post 505965)
I definitely need to see it on the big screen. The bootleg version on the comp sucked which made his voice even more annoying and hard to understand.

blasphemy. I'm taking you out of my 5.

moleman3230 08-12-2008 12:11 PM

Boy, they really dragged this **** out.

I think there wasn't anything really spectacular about this movie. It went in directions that the first movie never touched upon, but it ended up taking the awesome atmosphere that the first movie generated and chucking it out the window, and instead made the movie depressing and annoying. The storyline was pretty far-fetched, and it seemed like the directors had all sorts of great ideas for the movie, but couldn't face the facts that they could only use some of them, so they crammed them all in. The boat situations also added to the depressing atmosphere. Please, if any movie is going to have those kinds of situations, it's going to be Saw.

Whatsitoosit 08-12-2008 12:51 PM

It's based off of a comic book... far-fetched story lines shouldn't be a big surprise.

swim 08-12-2008 02:19 PM

People who give this movie bad reviews just want to feel obscure and good about themselves.

Piss Me Off 08-12-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by swim (Post 506020)
People who give this movie bad reviews just want to feel obscure and good about themselves.

There's always a backlash, simply because all-round great reviews in whatever will annoy people.

whodidthat? 08-12-2008 03:35 PM

I for one loved the movie

ProggyMan 08-12-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by swim (Post 506020)
People who give this movie bad reviews just want to feel obscure and good about themselves.

Or maybe because they didn't like it.

TheBig3 08-12-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 506102)
Or maybe because they didn't like it.

I don't think so. It was better than the hype it was given and the only people who could in theory give it a bad review are people who hate batman so much that they wouldn't go in the first place.

No one who wanted to go see it actually hated it.

There was nothing wrong with that film except for Maggie's face.

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 500060)
you kidding? i loved the bank robbery part at the very beginning.

Yeah well that scene set quite a few things up. ***SPOILER***

The joker robs a mob bank, give the money to the guy he's going to set up as the fall guy for why the mob should follow him?

I think this movie was beyond well constructed, this was labored over and I can't say one terrible thing about it.

As for it being relevant in 30 years, well thats primarily dependent on how topical it was for the time I think. Part of making the characters last over time is them representing a sentiment within society. The characters are as complex and emotionally entangled as it gets and the subjectivity of their emotions allow them to shift from one side of the coin to the other, still holding their ground, but showing that we can't place a black and white analysis on any emotional disposition. I think it will hold up just fine. The godfathers no different.

The kid in the godfather (i don't remember names) wants to stand for honor and whats right, and he comes home from war to find that the "just" are corrupted as well and theres no difference between the cops and the criminals. In fact its closer to batman than I originally thought.

As for his "****ty acting." I'm not sure whats so bad about it. Batman's always spoken with that terrible fake voice. Its supposed to be obviously bad. He's in a giant ****ing bat suit, did you expect him to be serious sounding? Its not Sifl & Olly. (/avoids "why so serious" comment)

And as Bruce Wayne, Bail was untouchable.

NSW 08-13-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 506127)
And as Bruce Wayne, Bail was untouchable.

Agree 100%!

Sifl & Olly? That's a blast from the past.

Whatsitoosit 08-13-2008 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 506127)
As for his "****ty acting." I'm not sure whats so bad about it. Batman's always spoken with that terrible fake voice. Its supposed to be obviously bad. He's in a giant ****ing bat suit, did you expect him to be serious sounding? Its not Sifl & Olly. (/avoids "why so serious" comment)

I'm stepping out of "bitching about Batman's voice" retirement to reply to this.

If you didn't realize that voice was over the top and silly then you either have stock in the batman franchise and are paid to defend it or you are just so bat silly for this movie you will ignore how silly his voice was. No other Batman that I remember watching EVER put on such a stupid voice. They always just talked deep under their breath careful not to use any recognizable characteristics of their actual voice. They didn't sound like they had throat cancer. The movie was good, it wasn't the greatest but it was good... will it stand up in 30 years as a good movie, the fact it's a super hero movie does put some strikes against it. Lots of special effects makes it harder for a movie to hold up in a time where the special effects are far more advanced. The Godfather didn't use special effects, that movie holds up on a good storyline, good acting and the fact it was in color helps as well.

mamanuthead 08-13-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit (Post 506285)
They didn't sound like they had throat cancer.

Right! :beer:

ProggyMan 08-13-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 506127)
I don't think so. It was better than the hype it was given and the only people who could in theory give it a bad review are people who hate batman so much that they wouldn't go in the first place.

No one who wanted to go see it actually hated it.

There was nothing wrong with that film except for Maggie's face.



Yeah well that scene set quite a few things up. ***SPOILER***

The joker robs a mob bank, give the money to the guy he's going to set up as the fall guy for why the mob should follow him?

I think this movie was beyond well constructed, this was labored over and I can't say one terrible thing about it.

As for it being relevant in 30 years, well thats primarily dependent on how topical it was for the time I think. Part of making the characters last over time is them representing a sentiment within society. The characters are as complex and emotionally entangled as it gets and the subjectivity of their emotions allow them to shift from one side of the coin to the other, still holding their ground, but showing that we can't place a black and white analysis on any emotional disposition. I think it will hold up just fine. The godfathers no different.

The kid in the godfather (i don't remember names) wants to stand for honor and whats right, and he comes home from war to find that the "just" are corrupted as well and theres no difference between the cops and the criminals. In fact its closer to batman than I originally thought.

As for his "****ty acting." I'm not sure whats so bad about it. Batman's always spoken with that terrible fake voice. Its supposed to be obviously bad. He's in a giant ****ing bat suit, did you expect him to be serious sounding? Its not Sifl & Olly. (/avoids "why so serious" comment)

And as Bruce Wayne, Bail was untouchable.

Bale gave a ridiculously one dimensional performance as Wayne, and the dialogue was terribly cheesy. Yes I know it's based on a comic book, not an excuse. But I still enjoyed it greatly and would see it again. But I think there are certainly negative things about it.

ProggyMan 08-13-2008 06:52 PM

Yeh, but like I said it doesn't hurt my enjoyment of the film, and it was certainly expected.

promotemetal 08-19-2008 11:32 AM

I loved this movie. Before I seen it I was a bit skeptical. There was so much hype over Heath Ledgers character and how he should win awards based on his performance. I thought there was so much hype because he had died so pepole were making a big deal. But, I went and seen the movie and all I could say it WOW! He was amazing and I don't think anyone could have played his part better.

Far Beyond Driven 08-21-2008 02:01 AM

Is it just me or does batman sound like nathan explosion?

guitargirl_93 08-24-2008 01:40 AM

I love this movie. I'm totally buying it when it comes out.

FaSho 08-24-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Far Beyond Driven (Post 509250)
Is it just me or does batman sound like nathan explosion?

hah maybe a little

WolfAtTheDoor 08-24-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Far Beyond Driven (Post 509250)
Is it just me or does batman sound like nathan explosion?

sounds like tom waits.

prettyravegirl 08-24-2008 03:21 PM

amazing movie this whole summer!

Ace 08-30-2008 05:20 AM

I think it'll definately amount to best movie of the year. I saw a midnight showing, (and then another a couple of days later....and I have it on my computer...), and I was blown away by it. I was also one of the people going to the theater skeptical, because the thought of Ledger once taking it up the ass onscreen, sickened me. But the guy made one hell of a good Joker. As far as I know, if the Joker is even in the next movie, it will only be as a shadow in a cell. And Nolan has already said the next movie will more than likely be the last, and Bale acknowledged. So we have one more gem to look forward to.

Edit: And it'll more than likely be The Riddler or Catwoman (or both) in the next movie.
It definately wont be Penguin. Nolan said so, and Bale threatened to quit if it was. :laughing:

WolfAtTheDoor 08-30-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace (Post 512430)
because the thought of Ledger once taking it up the ass onscreen, sickened me. :

and here was me thinking that was going to be an intelligent post.

but what's so wrong with the penguin?

Piss Me Off 08-30-2008 01:46 PM

Watching Batman Forever now, it's funny how you don't notice how things are so cheesy when you're a kid!

Ace 08-30-2008 03:30 PM

Haha, yeah.

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Originally Posted by WolfAtTheDoor (Post 512535)
and here was me thinking that was going to be an intelligent post.

but what's so wrong with the penguin?

I have a strong dislike for the fact that he chose to play two queer parts in his career.
I'd say the same thing if it were Mel Gibson, so don't let it bother you.

And I didn't really like Penguin that much as a villian.....and I guess Nolan doesn't either.
He just said he definately will not be using Penguin.

Mr Sensitive 09-01-2008 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace (Post 512560)
I have a strong dislike for the fact that he chose to play two queer parts in his career.
I'd say the same thing if it were Mel Gibson, so don't let it bother you.

http://www.topnews.in/health/files/depressed.jpg

Surell 09-07-2008 05:11 PM

Man, I loved this movie. I've always been a big fan of Batman, ever since I was a baby, and this movie just... destroyed stuff. Heath Ledger did great **** with his final performance. Too bad, you know, he kinda lost it afterwards. Shame shame shame. But otherwise, the movie was great aside from that too, ie. the writing and direction. I can't comment on the other acting seeing as Ledger stole the whole movie, really. Overall, it has to be one of the best movies I've seen in the past few years.

Tomorrow 09-08-2008 12:15 AM

Great movie this was. More Yoda it needed.

Anyway, I saw this 3 times. And now I can look forward to seeing 9000 jokers this Halloween in downtown Austin. Oh joy. After seeing this film with my brother, we went to Sonic and he ordered in the voice of Batman. Haha you would have had to been there.

slim slow slider 09-08-2008 04:13 PM

I'm not gonna lie, I saw it 3 times. Easily one of the better movies I saw all year

Surell 09-08-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomorrow (Post 515674)
Great movie this was. More Yoda it needed.

Anyway, I saw this 3 times. And now I can look forward to seeing 9000 jokers this Halloween in downtown Austin. Oh joy. After seeing this film with my brother, we went to Sonic and he ordered in the voice of Batman. Haha you would have had to been there.

I'll be joining the jillions of Jokers this year. Only I'm gonna kill people.

ProggyMan 09-08-2008 10:33 PM

I saw it again. It gets better and worse each time...The cheese stands out more, but the great moments are also more noticeable and I saw a bunch of little things I missed (Look very closely at Dent's memorial service scene).

WWWP 09-08-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Far Beyond Driven (Post 509250)
Is it just me or does batman sound like nathan explosion?

:laughing:

Surell 09-09-2008 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 516059)
I saw it again. It gets better and worse each time...The cheese stands out more, but the great moments are also more noticeable and I saw a bunch of little things I missed (Look very closely at Dent's memorial service scene).

I hear a lot of conspiracies about Dent not being dead, and I'm starting to think it could be true; unless they're gonna get a new villain next movie AND not make one after that.

Also, what is Batman saying?

ProggyMan 09-09-2008 06:21 PM

That's not what I meant, there's just a little discrepancy that I though was funny.

Surell 09-09-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 516328)
That's not what I meant, there's just a little discrepancy that I though was funny.

Well ****, now I have to pay nine dollars to see this discrepancy. Thanks a lot, bro.

But I just saw Batman anyway. I wanna compare Jackie and Ledger to see who da best.

ProggyMan 09-09-2008 10:15 PM

Just watch it online, or youtube the scene.

WolfAtTheDoor 09-16-2008 01:22 AM

I am now thoroughly intrigued and youtube does not have the scene. And I refuse to sit and watch it online. Please, please, tell me what this discrepancy is.

ProggyMan 09-16-2008 08:15 PM

Haha, I feel so powerful. PM me about it, so I don't ruin it for other people.


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