lucifer_sam

No, I was referring to the tool that said "i don't like 3d nintendo games."

Which is absolutely ridiculous.

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tdoc210

**** off
i hate 3d nintendo games
i didn't say they were bad i said i don't like them
so thats a load of crap?
hmm
apparently the fact that I don't like them is aload of crap and that i must like them.

So anyways
does anyone remember Golden Sun?

Ok let me re iterate
i think that 2d nintendo was the best
Mario platformers were chill. The legend of Zelda was the ****ing ****. Snes had some of the best rpg's out there
it was a time of fun games. and quality. good thing for emulators.

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We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

boo boo

What would that be?

1. Nintendo used to be very conservative when it came to censoring content in games but now they are very lenient. After all they did allow games like Manhunt 2, Mortal Kombat Armageddon and Bully to be released on the Wii without anything being censored. And then you have games like Splatterhouse which features very graphic violence and Devil's Crush which has a lot of referenes to the occult, both now for the virtual console.

2. I think you're right, every console has a "personality", which is what the Wii is being criticized for.

Nintendos demographic dosen't consist of the GTA kind of crowd, so I don't think that will hurt Nintendo. But they already have games like Bully and No More Heroes for the system, so it dosen't make a lot of sense.

3. I'm right with ya there buddy.

Hmm, objectively and not just a personal top 10?

Objectively? I'd say the top 10 greatest games of all time would be something like this.

Ocarina of Time
Super Mario Bros 3
Street Fighter II
Final Fantasy III (yeah, I hate calling it VI)
Doom
Grand Theft Auto III
Link to the Past
Super Mario 64
Civilization II
Super Mario Bros

That's about right, but my top 10 favorite games (at the moment) would be something like this.

Super Smash Bros Brawl
Ocarina of Time
Super Mario Bros 3
Street Fighter II
Link to the Past
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
TMNT IV: Turtles in Time
Super Mario Galaxy
Star Fox 64
Super Mario World

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Fruitonica

Really? I mean, maybe for it's influence, but I never found any of the doom games that much fun. I would substitute XCOM:UFO Defense in for doom and it's pretty much a perfect list.

Strummer521

Ok...I'm just always wary of flaming when video games come up, because its possibly the most hostile online community I've experienced.

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boo boo

Actually.

The estimated worldwide sales of the Saturn right now is somwhere around 17million, console sales do exceed their lifetime, you know.

You're only counting up until the consoles death, which is just ridiculous, even the Turbografx 16 sold more than 9 million past it's lifetime and it shouldn't even be debatable that the Saturn didn't have it that bad. How a console sells even after it's discontinued is still very important.

Now you may say it's an unfair comparison, calling a 2 year old a console a failure based on how it compares to the accumulated sales of a system that's well over a decade old. But it does matter, a system as big and hyped as the PS3 was expected to sell much higher. The Wii has already outsold the Genesis and the original X Box. The Gamecube still has more units sold than the PS3.

Actually no, I think the PS1 and PS2 were superior to the N64 and Gamecube, so I have no real grudges about them selling more units.

And video game consoles aren't like music CD's, their sales actually ARE a good indicator. Sure there are great consoles like the Dreamcast that haven't sold well. But I still can't think of a "bad" console that has sold more than 20 million.

Yet he begged to have his character to be featured in a Nintendo game like Brawl? What kind of mixed message is that?

"Hey, will you please add Snake to your upcoming Smash Bros game as a thinly veiled way to promote my new MGS game for the PS3? What? Pay you back with a MGS for the Wii? f*ck you"

Sounds like a real assh*le to me.

Also, they made a MGS game for the f*cking PSP, it's graphics are somewhere around PS1 quality.

Don't tell me graphics is an issue with the Wii.

For making such a limited console, yeah I get it. I mean yeah, they're ALL 128 bit machines. But lets just stick with the ones that can better render realistic looking ass fat. Because that's where the fun is at.

Hey, that rhymed.

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tdoc210

last time i checked my ps3 was pretty fun

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We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

boo boo

I never said it was a bad console. I'm merely retaliating by pointing out what I think are double standards.

All I'm trying to do is defend the Wii. I don't think the Wii is a bad console. And Christ, for a system that has already sold over 30 million units, you all still act like it's the Atari f*cking Jaguar or something.

If you want to waste $400 on a 360 with blu ray, be my guest, but don't tell me that because I like a console not only because it's doing something different from it's competition but also because it gives me exactly what I spent my $199 on that I'm somehow in the fanboy minority. 34 million isn't that much of a minority.

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Fruitonica

I'm really glad nintendo found so much success with the wii. I was disappointed when the Gamecube didn't sell much and then I heard about the Wii and I thought it was going to bomb for sure and Nintendo was going to wind up as another Sega.

boo boo

I don't think anyone is gonna go the way of Sega any time soon. Certainly not Nintendo, the DS and Wii should already compensate for the loss they suffered with the Gamecube. With as many hits as Nintendo have had, a failure or two isn't gonna hurt them. Unlike Sega who's had only one console that has ever broken 20 million and were burdoned by one failure after another.

I don't think Sony have anything major to worry about either. Sega are only a video game company. Sony are a hardware and entertainment company with many divisions and subsidiaries, not even the PS3's utter ass whooping at the hands of Nintendo and Microsoft would be enough to really hurt their business, though a similar underperformance from the PS4 or PS5 might.

There's enough room for 3 consoles. No one is doomed. Anyone who says otherwise is a f*cking idiot.

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