What TV shows are people watching?

Trollheart · 08-09-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Yes, the US version is full of cheap exposition.

I ain't seen it, but the thing about the version I have seen, the BBC one, is that although it's politically-set, of course, it's almost more a backdrop. It's the inner workings of Francis Urquart's mind we see more than anything else; what he'll do to take and keep power, the things and the people he betrays, who he'll literally murder or have murdered to keep his grip on power. As I say, almost literally Richard III for the twentieth century.

**Frownland** · 08-09-2017, 05:49 PM

I was answering your question about whether or not the US version copies how the original breaks the 4th wall (aka cheap exposition). But yes, I'm aware that it's about the ground breaking concept of a power hungry politician.

Trollheart · 08-09-2017, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I was answering your question about whether or not the US version copies how the original breaks the 4th wall (aka cheap exposition). But yes, I'm aware that it's about the ground breaking concept of a power hungry politician.

I was responding to your comment but the recommendation was more directed at Ped. I'm aware you don't seem to like the BBC version, but I think she might. If it's confusing or annoying her with all the politics, I was just pointing out that, in general, the BBC version doesn't rely quite as heavily on that as apparently the US one does. Put Urquhart in any other sphere, any place of power - corporation, union boss, police commissioner, general, pope - he would act the same, and so it's more about the man than about the position or the politics.

Trollheart · 08-09-2017, 07:31 PM

Anyone watching this? Wondering if it's any good: certainly has a good premise but I wonder if it's worth trying?

Trollheart · 08-23-2017, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Anyone watching this? Wondering if it's any good: certainly has a good premise but I wonder if it's worth trying?

As nobody answered: started this tonight. It's Israeli (I think) made, so subtitles which is fine, but unf nobody seems to have given any thought as to how those subtitles should appear. It's just white letters superimposed over the screen, with the result that when the action moves say towards a white wall, or, as in the opening sequences, most of the lower part of the screen is covered by a "breaking news" channel ident, half the text can't be read, which is very annoying. I wish whoever does these things would consider how people are supposed to read the damn subtitles!

That said, so far it's okay, but I've only seen one episode. Think it could be quite good. Interesting to see a foreign programme on Fox. I think it's the first subtitled one I've seen there.

djchameleon · 08-09-2017, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I ain't seen it, but the thing about the version I have seen, the BBC one, is that although it's politically-set, of course, it's almost more a backdrop. It's the inner workings of Francis Urquart's mind we see more than anything else; what he'll do to take and keep power, the things and the people he betrays, who he'll literally murder or have murdered to keep his grip on power. As I say, almost literally Richard III for the twentieth century.

I guess you don't get that the two versions are pretty damn similar. If she doesn't like the US version. She won't like the UK version. Frown has been trying to tell you that for a few posts but you don't get it.

Guerilla.

I missed out on this mini series. I am going to start it up tonight after watching Snowden.

Trollheart · 08-09-2017, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I guess you don't get that the two versions are pretty damn similar. If she doesn't like the US version. She won't like the UK version. Frown has been trying to tell you that for a few posts but you don't get it.

As I say, I haven't seen the US version, but Ped's issue with it seemed to be the tangle of politics in the US one. As I said, there's not that much deep politics in the BBC version. That's all I'm saying. If intricate politics is what stops you watching the US version, I don't believe the same is true of the BBC one.

My point isn't that Frown has a problem with the series, it's that he seems to keep answering my comments as if they're directed at him, which they're not. I get he doesn't like either; I guess you don't either. I'm just letting Ped know she might enjoy the BBC version more. She might not, I'm just letting her know it might be worth a shot.

I really have to make a point of watching the US version, but here it's only on Netflix and, of course, I have the region issue which Netflix are really hardass about, so it ain't easy.

**Frownland** · 08-09-2017, 06:01 PM

And those traits carry onto the American series, but go ahead and describe the premise of the show to me a few more times just to be thorough.

Trollheart · 08-09-2017, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

And those traits carry onto the American series, but go ahead and describe the premise of the show to me a few more times just to be thorough.

Once again, NOT talking to you. The information was for Ped. Not you.

**Frownland** · 08-09-2017, 07:20 PM

So that's one, let's get a few more in.

08-09-2017, 05:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I was answering your question about whether or not the US version copies how the original breaks the 4th wall (aka cheap exposition). But yes, I'm aware that it's about the ground breaking concept of a power hungry politician. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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08-09-2017, 06:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	And those traits carry onto the American series, but go ahead and describe the premise of the show to me a few more times just to be thorough. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-09-2017, 07:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	So that's one, let's get a few more in. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x