PS3 vs Xbox.
 

Debate that occurs quite a lot, apologies if there's already a thread on this, I searched and couldn't find one.

Anyway, I had a PS1, loved it as a child. PS2 equally, then I got a PS3.. Didn't warm to it, I got an Xbox and never really got back into the whole gaming thing and my Xbox broke, so I went back to PS3.

But now I've gone back to Xbox because there was a great deal for an elite with games and now I can't get enough of it.

Even when I owned a PS3 I conceded Xbox's were better.

What do you all prefer and why?

I think PS3 is better due to free online, better reliability, and (in my opinion) better exclusive titles. A lot of people prefer Xbox's online multiplayer, but I think as a whole, the PS3 is the best option for the average gamer.

I haven't played a PS3 to be fair, but if I was gonna buy one it would be a 360. One big reason is for it's Xbox Live Arcade feature.

Sure it's prone to malfunction and a lot of it's games are also for the PC.

But by comparison, the PS3 still dosen't have a lot of games that seem terribly interesting to me, at least those that are exclusives and aren't retreads of older Sony franchises.

What's wrong with retreading an old franchise? It's about all Nintendo is capable of.

Pretty much what he said except the whole free online doesn't matter much.

I've had both systems and I prefer the Ps3 not only for the games, but for the fact that it really does become the center of your media setup because you can do so much with it. Movie watching has never been easier than plugging my hard drive into the Ps3 and clicking on a file.

Yeah the free online factor for the PS3 never bothered me. If you're too cheap to pay £40 a year then what can I say?

But the online play on the PS3 is terrible, Xbox has a more thriving online community.

I much prefer the Xbox after a lot of switching. I have my iPod constantly plugged in so I can listen to my own music. Last FM if I want a bit of variety. Sky Player. Facebook (Even though it's piss poor it can still be handy.)

Yeah but those are franchises I actually care about.

But ok ok.

Some PS3 exclusives that look good to me.

Little Big Planet
Uncharted
Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction
God of War III..... but I haven't even played I or II, and honesty I'd rather play them first.

Well the Sony fanboys could say the same thing about Nintendo franchises, so that's really a neverending, purely opinionated argument.

Playing your music during games is something the Ps3 is missing, but unless I'm playing a sports game I prefer to listen to the actual ingame music (I guess the fact that i have an ipod dock connected to my surround sound system doesn't hurt.) Just makes the experience more immersive for me. Especially if I'm playing a FPS.

I'll never understand how people can focus on shooting something or someone when you can't hear them what's going on in the game world.

The online community on Ps3 seems like its thriving to me, but I've only owned a Ps3 for a couple of years so I can't say how it was earlier.

I think I know what you mean when you say that though b/c the online community on xbox is way more organized. I often find myself wondering why the Ps3 doesn't have a system (not one I can find anyway) of reporting people for misconduct, or why do I have to go to messages to accept an invite but those are minor annoyances that don't ruin the experience for me.

I'm with you there, I'm not sure how people can do it. I use to try and listen to music while playing Counter-Strike and just ended up sucking more than I did without the music. My brother's roommate use to listen to Drum and Bass while grinding in World of Warcraft. His reasoning was the repetitiveness of the music worked well with blocking out the fact he was doing the same exact thing for hours on end.

Well, I was playing COD WOW before, and I was listening to Free Bird and you can hear the background noise as well, it sounds like something in a movie, where the music is playing but you can still hear what's going on. The PS3 is really missing that. I have an IPod dock as well but I'd much rather play it on the Xbox.

Even a month or so ago, I tried to play a game of Fifa 10 and it took a while to connect. 5 minutes for a match, I was 4-0 up once and the connection went. It wasn't my internet's fault so I assume it was the PS3's fault.

As for the reporting people thing, I think it's better that the PS3 doesn't have one. Not that I've ever been an absolute prick that mouths off over a headset but I suppose it gives you more license to have some banter. (If you're into that sort of thing)

i'd also go for the PS3 over the xbox. the only time i've ever used an xbox (original) and considered it worthwhile was when it was modded to the point of basically having the built-in media center functionality that comes pre-packed with the PS3. there's been a 360 in the living room here for a few months, i've never seen it powered on, but the PS3 is rarely off.

also, if you happen to own a PSP the connectivity options are pretty nice as well. it streams videos no problem. when a friend of mine goes outside for a smoke he'll grab his PSP and stream an episode of South Park or Family Guy straight from the PS3. he's also the biggest Nintendo fan i've ever met, but he doesn't love his PS3 setup any less.

as for the online thing. why would i want to pay the price of a new game every year so i can play online when the same service is offered for free on every other platform available (wii, ps3, pc)?

i'm also pretty sure there's a way to get custom soundtracks working on the PS3 too, although you might have to pre-load the mp3s onto the hard drive.

@ Mr Dave

So you've only ever played an Xbox original? But there's been a 360 in your close vicinity for a couple of months but haven't played it?

I'm trying to get a general opinion from people who have tried both. I was very much so a Sony fan boy but conceded that the 360 was in fact better. People tend to defend their own.

I'd rather pay £40 and have a better online service, than pay nothing and wait 5 minutes if I want a game of Fifa and get cut off when I'm 4-0 up.

As for the PSP thing.. I had one, I thought they were beyond shit. But each to their own, if your mate likes it then fair play. I found it totally useless.

I'm all for free speech but I don't think the same idiots should be allowed to subject rooms full of people to anything obnoxious from screaming into the mic to spewing racial slurs b/c their buddies think it's funny.

The thing that kills me is that from the sound of the voices its usually younger people doing this (don't get me wrong I know there are idiots in every age group...just saying) and I just can't fanthom how their parent or guardian can't hear them yelling crap at the top of their lungs. Who are these people and why were they allowed to breed? That's the question I find myself asking every other day while playing online.

And yes I know i can mute them or not use a headset but I'm one of those people who enjoys communicating with my team and trying to work out at least a semblance of a strategy. I also play mostly with people I've met in person so we like to shoot the breeze during the waiting period in lobbies.

But seeing as how this has nothing to do with Xbox or Ps3 I'm done.

yeah the 360 really doesn't appeal to me or my circle of friends. i've seen and tried it in stores, that's about it, like a prettier version of something we've already seen too many times. my roommate got it because it was selling for cheap (used) and figured he might mod it someday.

as for the online service, it's a fickle thing, it depends on your location and the popularity of the title you're trying to enjoy. getting cut off when you're up 4-0 probably has more to do with the other player being a poor loser and disconnecting than anything else.

the PSP only really started to shine when it started being used in conjunction with the PS3. it was 'ok' before, but never really beat out the DS or DSi for portable gaming fun.

Like I said, I've never touched a head set. I don't have any desire for 13 year old children to say they shagged my mother as we try and shoot each other.

I typed that before I read the thing about the younger people doing it. So I think we're agreed on that. Their father's really should've considered a condom or taking a shit in the mothers hand bag on the first date.

Well yeah, if you enjoy conversing with friends over it and it's being ruined by a childish pubeless twat screaming then fair enough, you should report them and get rid of the little bastards

I have a mixed bag, a few friends prefer the PS3, most of them prefer the Xbox. I've always been inbetween the two. Never really found what I wanted until now.

I thought the same thing as you but it cut off, I went to my player hub, and he got the win. Because I got cut off. Not the other way round.

I've never ever heard of the PSP being any use to the PS3 tbh, so I'm unfamiliar with what it does.

I'm glad no one has used "the ps3 has blu ray" argument yet.

PS3 everytime.
I find the one I have reliable.
Free internet.
Good graphics.
Good games.
Nice controller.

The reason I never bought an xbox was becuase the controller.

consider it as a portable monitor / controller. you can enjoy any file from the PS3 through the PSP if it's within range (like stepping out for a smoke), but it's best for media, i wouldn't try games more extensive than the download titles since all the info is streaming.


as for the whole online thing. the 4-0 turning into a loss... WTF. i believe you and all, just WTF, that's messed. the behaviour and verbal abuse can also be very lame. but overall online communities really depend on the game as opposed to the console or how users are handled.

I forgot about that. Playstation has the best controller design on consoles hands down. I'm glad they realized making the controllers look like a bananna boomerang was a big mistake.

http://img.engadget.com/common/image...47108783472735

I feel like the social aspect of Xbox is far superior to PS3 and that's all I really care for nowadays. I don't give a **** if I have to pay 6 bucks a month to play, Microsoft doesn't make any money off of Live anyway so they are charging what they have to.

Definetly. I can't quite grasp the controls of an Xbox controller either, my friends will say, "press X" for whatever Xbox letter. The Xbox controller is just backwards if you ask me.

That is pretty cool.

Yeah but the 360 is just as powerful.

It does indeed have some good games, a lot more that I'm interesting in trying out than the PS3. Though a great majority of these games are also for the PC. So I'm not really compelled to get a 360 at the moment either.

Well the original Xbox controller was godawful but the redesign was a huge improvement.

Anyway, the Duelshock controller is more comfortable to hold than the Xbox controllers but I think the layout for the 360 controller is better. I like that the D pad is next to the right analog stick rather than being on the top left of the controller face, it's just a lot more comfortable that way, especially when a game has to make use of both. I personally have never been a big fan of the Playstation controllers. I don't like their shape or button layout very much.

The Dreamcast controller had a brilliant, simple layout but it's massive size and round shape took a long while to get used to and I'll never understand the logic of putting the cord at the bottom of the controller.

Of all the last gen controllers. Gamecube is superior to all, perfect button layout, most comfortable to hold, most suitable for any kind of game and it's my personal favorite controller of all time. :thumb:

All the buttons are exactly the same, just different letters/symbols.

Nobody looks at their controlled, they look at a monitor.

I've heard some Xboxers say they can't use the PS3 controller and vise versa, only a spastic couldn't use one and not the other.

They're virtually the same.

No they're not.

Having one analog stick and one D pad at the bottom and one analog stick at the top instead of two analog sticks at the bottom and one D pad at the top is a big enough difference for me to prefer the 360 controller.

But, I don't like either button layout as much as the Gamecube controller, or the N64 or Dreamcast controllers for that matter.

Probably my favorite thing about the GC controller is how much it differentiates all the buttons giving them different sizes and shapes. I never ever confuse one button with another. A problem I frequently have with the other controllers.

but the issue was button layout, not d-pad or sticks. if you can't handle a diamond layout because B is called 'circle' or vice versa then something's up. unless it's in quick time events, in which case it can take a while to get used to the difference. for the average game there's no reason it should prove a challenge.

Well I haven't grown up with the PS1 like a lot of people.

I'm just not really used to anything outside of the traditional use of buttons with letters on them.

I just have a hard time remembering where Playstation buttons are positioned, whenever the game tells me to push the circle button for something I have to briefly look at the controller again.

But by far the biggest annoyance for me is having two shoulder buttons on both sides. Not confusing L1 with L2 or R1 with R2, in addition to remembering that square is left, circle is right, triangle is top and x is bottom. It's just so convoluted and I really would prefer it if they used a letter system instead.

I just think the idea of using shapes is stupid, is it to make them stand out more? Well it dosen't. And why not just give the buttons different colors? As in, not just the lettering. Maybe it's because Sony were so obsessed with being for "mature" gamers and thought it was too childish, but multicolored layouts really does make it easier to memorize. The PS2 had the only controller from last gen that didn't do this.

I mean it was acceptable to make all the buttons look the same back in the old days when the button layout was simple, with no more than 6 buttons and a D pad. But starting with the 5th gen it really helped to make the buttons stand out from each other a little more.

The GC controller sticks to what I'm familiar with, the same simple layout as the SNES controller. B on the bottom left, A on the bottom right, Y on the top left, X on the top right, L on the left shoulder and R on the right shoulder.

The Xbox controller reversed the face button order around, so it took me a while not to accidently hit X when I needed to hit Y. But it's no real biggie.

And I think you're right about quick time events, I assume that's one of the reasons people prefer the GC version of Resident Evil 4 to the PS2 one.

every playstation i've ever played had colour coded buttons (the actual symbols). it helped make games like Parappa tha Rappa and Um Jammer Lammy awesome.

might be that 3rd party controllers were not color coded though.

Nothing compares to the 3rd party N64 controllers. Some of them were the worst shapes and most terrible ideas for controllers ever.

Like I said I meant the whole buttons not just the symbols.

I like to play games in a dark room rather than a lit one. And so yeah, all the buttons just look black to me. I shouldn't have to use a magnifying glass just to see the thin red square.

Eh, I would go with a 360. I am a Sony fan boy, but all my favorite Sony titles are for the ps2, which I already have.


However, I do not have either, and will never purchase either. I have a pretty decent pc, which is more than capable when compared to the system consoles.


Also

I think you are crazy. The PSP is a marvel. Its level of customization is pretty crazy. One can emulate any system from the n64 ea, and before. It can also be used in many other ways besides gaming. Reading Ebooks has never been easier, listening to music, and competent web browsing are also present. Not to mention being a pretty decent mp3/video player. It also has a pretty large variety of games, competent in all game genres when it comes to selection, plus many great exclusives. It is taking handheld gaming into the same world as console gaming when it comes to how seriously people are taking it, and the quality of games being produced.

No, I think I'm going to stand by my observation and say I can't really use a 360 controller well. And I'm not a spastic ;).

Absolutely, I find the controllers pretty different.

the 360 has an analogue stick on the top left, unless I've been using the wrong controllers thats pretty different.

And for the wire discussion, PS3 half tackled that problem. By making wireless controllers, but the only problem is, if your controller runs out of battery, the usb goes into the top.

And on the Circle for "B" discussion, well it wouldn't make much sense if a friend said, right press B now, cos I have no idea where the letters are on a 360 controller, so they will say "circle" as I'm used to PS3 controllers, it really makes sense to say that.

The Xbox controllers are awful. They're huge and uncomfortable to use in my opinion.

I've never owned a 360 but i did own an Xbox. I actually won it and therefore got it for free, borrowed quite a few games off a mate and bought a few others myself too. I never liked it though, it collected dust and i part exchanged it when i got my PS3.

I'm PS3 all the way. The PSN doesnt match up to Xbox live just yet but i feel it's getting better all the time and then when you consider i want my console to play DVD's and other things as well then the 360 is gonna cost me alot more money in the long run, money i'm personally not willing to play.

I swapped consoles with a mate of mine for a few weeks too when he wanted to play the last Metal Gear and i've played a 360 a few times at other mates houses and it's definitely not for me. Theres not many 360 exclusives that would make me put my hand in my pocket.

I've never liked the saturn, gamecube, or N64 controllerss acually. The button layouts just never felt right compared to playstation or xbox.

not specific to you but for anyone writing off the xbox controller as huge and crap...

try anything they released after the original controller. i'm pretty sure microsoft owned up to pooping the bed in regards to the initial design. the wireless ones were awesome and the 360 ones are about the same size.

it makes them slightly larger than the PS3 controller but smaller than a PSP, and definitely not football sized like the originals.

It's frustrating that sony doesn't just update their console so it matches xbox live already. The only piece they're really missing is cross game invites and chat.

It seems so obvious to include it, right after a price drop and new advertising campaign. I admit i know nothing about implementing software, but it really can't be that hard.

If they can make something like home they should be able to do the simple stuff.

Only the original though, the redesigned Xbox controller was solid and it's the basis for the 360 one, it's not without it's flaws but IMO it's better than the Duelshock controllers and the wireless 360 controller is just fantastic.

Heh, one of the big reasons I'd rather have a 360 than a PS3 is because of it's backwards compatability, and I really want to check out games like Psychonauts and Panzer Dragoon Orta.

Blah, I admire the 360 for actually being what it's supposed to be, A GAME SYSTEM.

Well here's a short list of reasons why I am more interested in the 360 than the PS3.

1. Better controller
2. More interesting exclusives... Gears of War 2, Fable II, Dead Rising, Mass Effect
3. Backwards compatability with original Xbox games
4. Xbox Live Arcade
5. While some might call the Xbox achievements a novelty, I think it's a brilliant way to give games more replay value, and actually being able to save your score and share it with your friends so you can show them how inferior they are to you? Ah yes, the spirit of the arcade lives on

Dude the original Saturn controller was amazing, and IMO the best controller of the 5th gen systems, it was basically the same as the 6 button Genesis controller, but with shoulder buttons.

Granted not having a joystiq made it awkward for 3D games, which the Saturn didn't really excell in aside from a few titles, Nights did come with a redesigned controller with an analog stick if I recall.

you mean like how the PS3 can play any PS1 game and most PS2 games, and depending on the model, with improved graphical quality on PS2 titles? ;)

they also call achievements trophies. have you actually seriously looked at a PS3 before?

you can also get Psychonauts for the pc (usually in a pack with Beyond Good and Evil). both are horribly underrated sleeper hits.

Heh, I didn't know it was backwards compatable with PS2 games, that makes me wonder why PS2s are still being produced then.

Oh yeah, that's right, MOST PS2 games.

Hmm... What games can't it play?

Ok I didn't know that, but even if I owned a PS3 I probably wouldn't have known that.

I haven't even gotten my Wii online yet. :(

I'll probably end up getting BG&E for the Gamecube though.

not sure what PS2 games it can't handle, i'm thinking it's probably earlier stuff with less conventional 'fixes' to achieve certain elements. i played through FF12 with full widescreen support and anti-aliasing a while back and it looked NICE.

as for the connectivity let me get this straight...

online achievements are a pro for the 360, as part of a service you have to pay for monthly. yet you haven't connected a device that has free online services... and remained ignorant of another device that offers the same service for free.


have you ever actually looked at a PS3 before?