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Old 09-08-2011, 06:33 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Brian De Palma is one of the most overrated directors ever. Sure Scarface had it's moments. Carlito's Way was certainly watchable but I find him all style and no substance.

The Untouchables is no exception. The backdrop: Prohibition U.S.A. The Actors: Robert De Niro, Sean Connery, Andy Garcia yet it is still a film that it is cliched and overly melodramatic.

Using Versace for costume design? WTF? Is this a film or a fashion show? As if a beat cop (Connery) wore tailored suits.

Odessa Steps? Copy....and copy and copy. The pram falling downstairs is not a homage. It is a cheap imitation devoid of merit or individuality.

Robert De Niro... apart from displaying some much needed malevolence at a dinner table it is a wasted role and would have been much better with original choice Bob Hoskins.

Sean Connery. What accent are u portraying? I think it is supposed to be Irish American but it just you; once again just acting. You are Scottish playing an American with Irish Roots and end up sounding like none of them. (A damn shame as a rare highlight is his death crawl through his apartment).

Andy Garcia... u were in 8 Million Ways To Die a year earlier and blew everyone away in one of your first film roles and then became such a underwritten character on this film. Shame

Thank feck for Billy Drago as the hitman. Another underwritten role but he owned it both physically and thematically.

I haven't mentioned Costner for a reason. He just resides in the movie and is neither watchable or unwatchable. He is just there.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:43 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I'm gonna go with the opposite instead of slating a movie i'm gonna confess a movie that is usually regarded as terrible and the worst of the series.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:44 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:40 AM   #54 (permalink)
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The Godfather is a terribly plotted convoluted mess. It's a good movie for entertainment value, but with the gorgeous cinematography, top notch acting, and perfectly engineered scoring it makes itself a perfectly viable form of entertainment.

The plot is sloppy and meandering, though.
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The Godfather is a terribly plotted convoluted mess. It's a good movie for entertainment value, but with the gorgeous cinematography, top notch acting, and perfectly engineered scoring it makes itself a perfectly viable form of entertainment.

The plot is sloppy and meandering, though.
Well yeah I mean it was based on Mario Puzo's terribly plotted convoluted mess of a book.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:52 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Citizen Kane is way overrated

Touch of Evil shoulda been the Welles' classic

Metropolis is also quite overrated

Spione is Lang's best

both of them were ahead of its time, that's all - there's not much in the way of plot, cinematography or framing that I like
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Brian De Palma is one of the most overrated directors ever. Sure Scarface had it's moments. Carlito's Way was certainly watchable but I find him all style and no substance.

The Untouchables is no exception. The backdrop: Prohibition U.S.A. The Actors: Robert De Niro, Sean Connery, Andy Garcia yet it is still a film that it is cliched and overly melodramatic.

Using Versace for costume design? WTF? Is this a film or a fashion show? As if a beat cop (Connery) wore tailored suits.

Odessa Steps? Copy....and copy and copy. The pram falling downstairs is not a homage. It is a cheap imitation devoid of merit or individuality.

Robert De Niro... apart from displaying some much needed malevolence at a dinner table it is a wasted role and would have been much better with original choice Bob Hoskins.

Sean Connery. What accent are u portraying? I think it is supposed to be Irish American but it just you; once again just acting. You are Scottish playing an American with Irish Roots and end up sounding like none of them. (A damn shame as a rare highlight is his death crawl through his apartment).

Andy Garcia... u were in 8 Million Ways To Die a year earlier and blew everyone away in one of your first film roles and then became such a underwritten character on this film. Shame

Thank feck for Billy Drago as the hitman. Another underwritten role but he owned it both physically and thematically.

I haven't mentioned Costner for a reason. He just resides in the movie and is neither watchable or unwatchable. He is just there.
This.

No matter how he tries, he can't ditch his Scottish heritage. His accent bleeds through every character like a leaky sieve and has ruined some films that were otherwise very good: The Rock, the Last Crusade, Highlander, etc.

On a related note, License to Kill is the best Bond film, hands down.
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Old 09-09-2011, 05:44 PM   #58 (permalink)
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The title itself is misleading. It was marketed as an 'unofficial' sequel to the original Dawn Of The Dead. It is also known as Zombie, Zombie Flesh Eaters amongst other names and may not be that well known to many on here but in Horror film circles and especially Zombie aficionados it is classed as nothing short of classic.

It is a film I know well and I almost want to apologise for including it as it has some great assets. Zombie Vs Shark shot wonderfully well, the fantastic synth score, hand on the window shot, the inventive use of gore (the infamous eye splitting scene) and the P.O.V shots of Zombies arising from their graves BUT it's boring!

Apart from the opening 5 minutes we have to wait another 30 for anything to happen and even in those 30 minutes the plot is barely expanded upon. As is par for the course with Italian Horror films most of the actors are dubbed and badly too. The inconsistencies become ever more apparent the more times you watch it (Zombies breathing underwater, 500 year old buried bodies still fairly intact etc) and although the score is great it not utilised in the right places.

The director Luci Fulci quite rightly has his place in Italian Horror cinema having given us the superlative The Beyond and this was the film that put him onto the international stage but I still find it vastly overrated and one of those films often viewed through nostalgic misty eyed glasses and upon close inspection it is a cumbersome beast.
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I do agree that movies based on a book are not as good as the book. That's because of the limitations a movie has compared to a book.
This is false. Lord of the Rings, No Country for Old Men, and There Will Be Blood (even though that one is only partially based off of Upton Sinclair's "Oil!") are all exponentially better than the books.
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Citizen Kane is way overrated
Yeah, it's weird though because if you judge it on the context of other movies at the time and place it was extremely underrated, but in films overrall its overrated.


I thought it was boring.
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