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Old 11-23-2011, 08:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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but most cinematic monologues are rarely traced back to a previous source and that is what the OP was trying to get across. Quoting verbatim or riffing on previous dialogue is not what a monologue is.

The beauty of the best movie monologues is that they are often unscripted and improvised or otherwise wholly original otherwise there would just be a bunch of actors quoting Shakespeare etc
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Could have fooled me.

I'm not a huge theater or film buff but I've seen my fair share of great films and I'm certain the "unscripted" ones sound like an idiot rambling more than anything else. The ONLY exception I can think to this comes courtesy of R. Lee Ermey, and he WAS a drill sergeant for a long time before he got involved in Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket.


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You think Brando improvised that? Bull-fucking-shit.
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Old 11-24-2011, 06:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Could have fooled me.

I'm not a huge theater or film buff but I've seen my fair share of great films and I'm certain the "unscripted" ones sound like an idiot rambling more than anything else. The ONLY exception I can think to this comes courtesy of R. Lee Ermey, and he WAS a drill sergeant for a long time before he got involved in Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket.


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You think Brando improvised that? Bull-fucking-shit.
What? Brando improvised R. Lee Ermy

Brando apparently read Hearts Of Darkness and remembered certain phrases that stuck out but the monologue was improvised and not all from source material.
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I'm a bit confused here...

Are you saying that Brando's monologue wasn't written at all by Coppola and Milius? That would be extremely impressive; I know Brando does a fair bit of ad-libbing but it's unusual even for an actor of his caliber to give direction to the director.

Or are you suggesting that the scene didn't entirely stem from The Heart of Darkness? Because I already knew that -- the film deviates exceptionally from that novel, but that monologue is very, very much in the same spirit as Conrad's words.

EDIT: I suppose I misspoke earlier. I had meant to say Coppola adapted that scene from the novel. It is still an impressive monologue, and certainly one of the best.
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