Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Media (https://www.musicbanter.com/media/)
-   -   comedians (https://www.musicbanter.com/media/80066-comedians.html)

The Batlord 09-02-2019 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076019)
both elph and frownland used the term PC during our discussion

Because you started it, you pea brain.

Quote:

And the left is just a generic term same as the right
And both are **** that you only use when starting a political hack tirade.

The Batlord 09-02-2019 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076024)
Do you not think political correctness is a real thing?

Lemme ask you this... what should I substitute to describe the same phenomenon, since apparently "PC" is uncouth even though it's been in the mainstream lexicon for decades.

What's the point in putting makeup on a troll?

jwb 09-02-2019 05:55 PM

All of those terms are mainstream political terms. You pretending like it's a 4 Chan thing is you being in denial as usual

jwb 09-02-2019 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2076026)
What's the point in putting makeup on a troll?

So it's not a real thing?

Frownland 09-02-2019 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076024)
Do you not think political correctness is a real thing?

Nah, I just wouldn't put it on one side or the other in this instance since I'd rather goof on both.

Quote:

Lemme ask you this... what should I substitute to describe the same phenomenon, since apparently "PC" is uncouth even though it's been in the mainstream lexicon for decades.
Outrage mob is good I guess, I don't really care.

jwb 09-02-2019 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076029)
Nah, I just wouldn't put it on one side or the other in this instance since I'd rather goof on both.



Outrage mob is good I guess, I don't really care.

I don't think I put it on a particular side

I noted through history it's changed where most of it comes from

It used to be most of it came from the Christian right. Now it's more likely to come from the woke left.

Frownland 09-02-2019 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076030)
I don't think I put it on a particular side

I noted through history it's changed where most of it comes from

It used to be most of it came from the Christian right. Now it's more likely to come from the woke left.

You put it on the PC crowd, which is a side :wavey:

"It" = reacting to the special in a way that warrants being goofed on btw

jwb 09-02-2019 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076031)
You put it on the PC crowd, which is a side :wavey:

in any given fight, ya

But the PC crowd in Lenny Bruce's day had very different politics from the PC crowd of today, which I noted.

So I'm not saying it's a right or left thing by definition.

The Batlord 09-02-2019 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076027)
All of those terms are mainstream political terms. You pretending like it's a 4 Chan thing is you being in denial as usual

I mean you can manipulate the conversation all you want but I'm sure you're not totally ignorant about being a 4Chan tard and how "the left" and "PC" are used on the internet. You can refrain from using "snowflake" and "cuck" but they're kind of unspoken with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076028)
So it's not a real thing?

Not using them won't make what you say any different.

Frownland 09-02-2019 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076032)
in any given fight, ya

But the PC crowd in Lenny Bruce's day had very different politics from the PC crowd of today, which I noted.

So I'm not saying it's a right or left thing by definition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076031)

"It" = reacting to the special in a way that warrants being goofed on btw

Sometimes I think you're arguing against headlines related to what we're talking about instead of what I'm actually saying.

jwb 09-02-2019 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2076033)
I mean you can manipulate the conversation all you want but I'm sure you're not totally ignorant about being a 4Chan tard and how "the left" and "PC" are used on the internet. You can refrain from using "snowflake" and "cuck" but they're kind of unspoken with you.



Not using them won't make what you say any different.

I haven't been on 4 Chan since I was a teen

I think you project a lot of **** onto me tbh

Yeah the term snowflake I could see lining up with what I say to extent.. But I still don't say it cause it's corny. So you trying to flip it back on me is once again a fail.

As for cuck I just think it's meaningless.

Bottom line is you still profiled and missed the mark, just like I did.

jwb 09-02-2019 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076036)
Sometimes I think you're arguing against headlines related to what we're talking about instead of what I'm actually saying.

when I responded to that post that part wasn't up, first of all

Second, I still don't see your point. "It" refers to the mob. That doesn't in any way mean I'm saying all mobs are politically aligned.

Frownland 09-02-2019 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2075877)
The backlash is funny though, as is the overhyping that it's receiving from people just because they have an axe to grind about political correctness.

That's the "both sides" I was referring to in this culture war nonsense.

jwb 09-02-2019 06:15 PM

Chappelle 4 prez

.

jwb 09-02-2019 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076040)
That's the "both sides" I was referring to in this culture war nonsense.

I mean I'm sure that's true to an extent, but the same can be said of virtually any comedy with a message

E.g. Carlins fans just had an axe to grind against the FCC and profanity restrictions


And you're also ignoring fact that this is sorta response to the hate the last special got over jokes that were not designed to prod people for outrage

The Batlord 09-02-2019 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076038)
But I still don't say it cause it's corny. So you trying to flip it back on me is once again a fail.

As Lewis Black once said, by all the rules of the Catholic Church, if you think it then you said it, *******.

Frownland 09-02-2019 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076044)
And you're also ignoring fact that this is sorta response to the hate the last special got over jokes that were not designed to prod people for outrage

I've addressed its reactionary nature many times.

jwb 09-02-2019 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2076045)
As Lewis Black once said, by all the rules of the Catholic Church, if you think it then you said it, *******.

i never thought it. It just sounds almost like something I would say. E.g. fragile souls

You suck at taking me to task tbh
I want Dr melphi

jwb 09-02-2019 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076046)
I've addressed its reactionary nature many times.

Why shouldn't you react to some **** telling you not to do something by doing it 5 more times?

Frownland 09-02-2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076050)
Why shouldn't you react to some **** telling you not to do something by doing it 5 more times?

Do whatever you want, but if you ain't got jokes I ain't gonna join in on your spite laugh.

The Batlord 09-02-2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076048)
i never thought it. It just sounds almost like something I would say. E.g. fragile souls

You suck at taking me to task tbh
I want Dr melphi

Don't lie to the Pope. I've got dick scars to show you the way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076050)
Why shouldn't you react to some **** telling you not to do something by doing it 5 more times?

I don't know, because it could be harmful to someone even if it's not obvious?

jwb 09-02-2019 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076051)
Do whatever you want, but if you ain't got jokes I ain't gonna join in on your spite laugh.

it wasn't a spite laugh... But him going in like he did was saying **** you I'll do what I want..which was frankly both inspirational and funny.

All praise be to Chappelle the God

jwb 09-02-2019 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2076052)
Don't lie to the Pope. I've got dick scars to show you the way.



I don't know, because it could be harmful to someone even if it's not obvious?

Everybody has a pet issue. If we steer clear of all of them then we're left with no more prolific, edgy comedy.

So **** it.

If I find a joke offensive it's just the way it goes. Can't please everyone.

Frownland 09-02-2019 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076053)
it wasn't a spite laugh...

Lol you live in a Twilight zone dude.

Quote:

But him going in like he did was saying **** you I'll do what I want..which was frankly both inspirational and funny.
I wish.

The biggest "**** you I'll do what I want" would be doing the same thing you did before. You know, like not compromising on your humour in favour of looking like a bitter, tryhard troll who has his moments.

jwb 09-02-2019 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2076066)
Lol you live in a Twilight zone dude.

stop stealing all my insults you cuck



Quote:

I wish.

The biggest "**** you I'll do what I want" would be doing the same thing you did before. You know, like not compromising on your humour in favour of looking like a bitter, tryhard troll who has his moments.
That's basically what he did, he just went a little harder.

You haven't even seen the OJ special, right? If you watch that and don't laugh at the bill Cosby bit then please never speak to me about comedy again.

Frownland 09-02-2019 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2076068)
stop stealing all my insults you cuck

Doesn't that make you the cuck?

Quote:

You haven't even seen the OJ special, right? If you watch that and don't laugh at the bill Cosby bit then please never speak to me about comedy again.
Not yet. What's it called?

jwb 09-03-2019 03:47 AM

It's the 2017 special on Netflix. The age of spin

Frownland 09-13-2019 10:27 PM

Been on a Ralphie Mae kick lately. RIP


Mindfulness 09-17-2019 08:28 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0pfZygi2t8

Frownland 10-22-2019 06:32 PM



That's one hell of a closer

Mindfulness 10-29-2019 05:44 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMJWeluZ3tI

jwb 10-29-2019 07:01 PM

Chappelle's special was honestly brilliant. The more times I watch it the more convinced I am.

The Prince lyrics in the beginning. The Anthony Bourdain joke. Segway into celebrity hunting season. Michael Jackson's victims got their dick sucked by the king of pop while "most if us just got awkward thanksgivings for the rest of our lives."

Then all the **** with the alphabet people, me too, abortions... Followed by school shootings and a paranoid Dave arming himself with guns to protect his home from "heroin addicted whites."

This completely blows a hole in the idea that he did something wrong by "punching down." None of publications that attacked him cared about him relentlessly mocking poverty stricken Midwestern white drug addicts.

Why is that? We're told punching down is based in power dynamics. Those without power are considered poor taste to attack.

Yet the heroin addicted whites he mocks have zero power. There was no backlash for a couple reasons.

1) they have no advocacy groups lobbying in favor of their public image. Women have NOW. The alphabet people have glaad. Jews have the adl. Blacks have the NAACP, Muslims have cair, etc. You will have to answer to any of these groups if you portray their constituency in a way they don't approve of.

2) Dave was brilliantly flipping the racial dynamics with his material on heroin addicted whites. In a number of ways.
a) the typical idea of a gun owner who is trying to protect his property is a suburban white man paranoid about black and Hispanic criminals pulling a home invasion. Dave paints the picture if an eccentric black millionaire in MAGA country scared of heroin addicted whites breaking in to rifle through his change jar.
b) he juxtaposed the modern "opioid crisis" with the crack epidemic of the 80's and 90's, and the way our society has addressed them... Concluding "whatever happened to JUST SAY NO? What's so hard about that??"

And so, the last portion if his special, despite being more hard hitting than any other portion, flew under the radar. Because his politics were correct. This theme is present throughout the special. Repeatedly, he either dave says something over the line and outlandish and then brings it back with something acceptable, or he does the reverse.

He's constantly treading a thin tight rope to stay barely in bounds yet allowing for a reasonable suspicion otherwise.

Frownland 10-29-2019 07:07 PM

Ja being childishly vindictive in the face of barely any criticism sure is hilarious.

And damn that Louis video got taken down, bummer.

OccultHawk 10-29-2019 07:07 PM

Better than Kramer though?

jwb 10-29-2019 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2086494)
Ja being childishly vindictive in the face of barely any criticism sure is hilarious.

And damn that Louis video got taken down, bummer.

It wasn't vindictive really.

jwb 10-29-2019 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2086495)
Better than Kramer though?

no comparison. Kramer leaped off the tight rope and did a nose dive into a crowd of wounded orphans.

Frownland 10-29-2019 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086496)
It wasn't vindictive really.

So you don't know what vindictive means or?

jwb 10-29-2019 07:28 PM

Or I disagree with you?

Frownland 10-29-2019 07:31 PM

Probably both. Seems like you view a lot of the vindictive elements as a positive based on your last post.

jwb 10-29-2019 07:35 PM

You're starting to bore me now

Maybe try explaining what you find so vindictive about it


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:25 AM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.