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Justthefacts 08-06-2015 07:22 PM

Fallout 4
 
fallout 4 bitch

Official Trailer


20 Minute Gameplay


Good nasty fun stuff


Whose preordered it? Whose desperately waiting? Whose had dreams about this moment? I love that they've made it a little more realistic during the V.A.T, having the victim move at a slow pace whereas they just stand there as if time's stopped. At least time goes in slow motion and it's a little less ridiculous. That'll be interesting. Also creating my own fortress and customizing it to ward off pesky raiders. Also, the weapons are fully customizable, I'll have loads of fun there. The only thing I'm not too impressed with is the weird fucking Brotherhood of Steel armor suit you put on. I don't know about that one. Also if this is honestly the cover to gaming history's most long awaited title, I might puke. They just slapped this together terribly.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...19OPYLI7JL.jpg

No matter though, I've invested $10 so far into my local Gamestop. Another 50 and I'm golden.

I'll keep updated
Why Fallout 4's Protagonists Have Voices
E3 2015: Fallout 4 Release Date Revealed
Fallout 4 Won't End When the Story Concludes, No Level Cap
QuakeCon 2015: Fallout 4's Mod Tools Don't Exist Yet
QuakeCon 2015: Fallout 4 Players Can Romance Companions
Fallout 4 Voice Actors Recorded Over 13,000 Lines of Dialogue
Fallout 4 Wins Best of E3 2015 by Game Critics Awards
Bethesda Accepts Bottle Cap Payment for Fallout 4

Two Spirit 08-06-2015 07:26 PM

I'll be taking a day or two off from work for this game. I've been waiting too long for me not to play it extensively on release.

Exo 08-07-2015 09:20 AM

I'm so weird with video games. I could care less about 95% of them but i'm literally OBSESSED with the Fallout series. Can't wait. I hope I can explore the wasteland with Dogmeat again.

IIII don't want to set the wooooooooooorld oooon fiiiiiiiiireeeeeeee....

Black Francis 08-07-2015 09:54 AM

Im not pre ordering it but i am planing on buying it when i get a Ps4.

I saw the trailer for it and i think the game is gonna be amazing but im not in a hurry to get it. I like the new VAT system but i hope you get other companions aside from the dog and that the new fortress system doesn't interfere with the main story gameplay cause it would be a drag to be forced to go back to protecting your fortress while all you wanna do is continue the story.

EPOCH6 08-07-2015 09:59 AM

I'm literally buying a gaming rig solely for the release of this game in November. I've been gradually playing through Fallout III again over the last couple of months, finished the main quest and currently weaving my way through each DLC. Starting New Vegas again immediately after.

The gaming community is an interesting world, are there any other industries that stir up even close to the same amount of ferocious criticism from consumers every time they move a muscle? Ever since the Mass Effect fans went insane over the end of Mass Effect III it's like developers have to behave like trained politicians, especially at events like E3.

Seems like a lot of people are worried that Fallout 4 will feel dumbed down (in terms of RPG elements) relative to the previous games, especially New Vegas, the same way Skyrim felt somewhat dumbed down relative to Oblivion and Morrowind. Personally I feel like the one place Fallout 3 could have used some significant improvement was combat, and if Fallout 4 sacrifices a small amount of RPG elements to make the combat a bit more involved, I'm alright with that. If anything the new settlement building system more than makes up for sidelining stats for "perks" and "ranks".

Key 08-07-2015 10:14 AM

I'm honestly more interested in Dishonored 2. I've never been a fan of the Fallout series and i've tried playing Fallout 3, but I kind of just got bored of it for whatever reason.

Black Francis 08-07-2015 10:51 AM

When it comes to the Fallout games i honestly don't need any gameplay improvements in the stat system and i would be disappointed if they sacrificed the rpg elements for FPS ones. I like the familiarity of the perk system and factions system although i think they could improve on the factions system by adding more depth to the factions themselves because they always focus on the Brotherhood and skim through the rest,

New vegas kinda forced you too pick a faction and i liked that but again, you kinda skimmed through the factions and do a couple a missions for them but you don't feel you don't really belong in that faction you are just using them.

I wish i could play Fallout and live as a raider or as a slaver or even a khan. those guys can get all the chems.

Justthefacts 08-07-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1623122)
Im not pre ordering it but i am planing on buying it when i get a Ps4.

I saw the trailer for it and i think the game is gonna be amazing but im not in a hurry to get it. I like the new VAT system but i hope you get other companions aside from the dog and that the new fortress system doesn't interfere with the main story gameplay cause it would be a drag to be forced to go back to protecting your fortress while all you wanna do is continue the story.

You do, and you can romance them as well, boy or girl.

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Originally Posted by EPOCH6 (Post 1623124)
I'm literally buying a gaming rig solely for the release of this game in November. I've been gradually playing through Fallout III again over the last couple of months, finished the main quest and currently weaving my way through each DLC. Starting New Vegas again immediately after.

The gaming community is an interesting world, are there any other industries that stir up even close to the same amount of ferocious criticism from consumers every time they move a muscle? Ever since the Mass Effect fans went insane over the end of Mass Effect III it's like developers have to behave like trained politicians, especially at events like E3.

Seems like a lot of people are worried that Fallout 4 will feel dumbed down (in terms of RPG elements) relative to the previous games, especially New Vegas, the same way Skyrim felt somewhat dumbed down relative to Oblivion and Morrowind. Personally I feel like the one place Fallout 3 could have used some significant improvement was combat, and if Fallout 4 sacrifices a small amount of RPG elements to make the combat a bit more involved, I'm alright with that. If anything the new settlement building system more than makes up for sidelining stats for "perks" and "ranks".

Gunplay is much more fluid, as seen in the video.

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1623129)
I'm honestly more interested in Dishonored 2. I've never been a fan of the Fallout series and i've tried playing Fallout 3, but I kind of just got bored of it for whatever reason.

Also awaiting Dishonered 2. I'll be playing as the chick.

LoathsomePete 08-07-2015 12:09 PM

The biggest problem I have with Bethesda developed games is that they sacrifice pacing and story in favor of a big, but kind of samey and shallow world. I've heard that there's been a tighter focus on story in this game, so we'll see. I'd be kidding myself if I said I wasn't going to buy it, however I'll probably wait until the semester is done. I don't want to get it in November just before finals and not play it until after, or sacrifice my studies in order to play the game. Honestly though I could leave the base building mechanics, that sounds more like something that could be added by modders, like what they did with Skyrim before the Hearthfire DLC came out.

EPOCH6 08-07-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1623147)
The biggest problem I have with Bethesda developed games is that they sacrifice pacing and story in favor of a big, but kind of samey and shallow world.

It's certainly a difficult balance to achieve. Bethesda has found themselves in this weird position between genres with a divided fan base. Basically they've got the RPG fans coming from a background of Baldur's Gate, Diablo, KOTOR, Zelda, maybe WOW, Final Fantasy etc, and the linear FPS fans coming from a background of Half-Life, BioShock, Halo, STALKER, Far Cry, and COD etc. How do you please both camps?

Bethesda seems to tread very lightly between which gameplay elements dominate. On one hand they want to create this big open world full of secrets and **** to explore, things to collect, interesting fleshed out NPC's to meet, and give you complete freedom to explore it whenever you want. And at the same time they have to inject a story interesting enough to keep your attention amidst all of that freedom and opportunity. How do you get players to care about the main story and its characters when there is so much out there to distract them? You have all of these massively interesting side quests and somehow you have to make sure that your main quest is even more interesting than that, otherwise the player doesn't relate to any of the central characters and then next thing you know you've got blogs going "Bethesda can't write a story for ****".

In every single Bethesda game I've played I found the side quests more interesting and entertaining than the main quests. The most memorable moments always stem from free exploration. It's a consequence of taking on such an insanely daunting task, you end up diluting the world with stories and in the end there's so many of them that none of them really stick out as a strong central plot. But in the end it doesn't really seem to matter all that much and obviously they're doing a good enough job overall, because every single time we keep coming back. Every single time the hype machine for these open world Bethesda games completely dominates the gaming industry for a year straight.

Sympathy for Bethesda, they're doing their best, and as far as I know there isn't anybody doing the same thing better, except maybe The Witcher, but we'll see if that holds true after Fallout 4 comes out.

Scarlett O'Hara 08-08-2015 03:05 AM

OMG....UGH....http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/i...masturbate.gif

I don't know if my computers will play it. Anyone know the specs? :(

This series makes my life.

Black Francis 08-08-2015 09:52 AM

@EPOCH

I have more than sympathy for Bethesda, i admire them.
Like you said, there's no other game quite like Fallout, they have the best post apocalyptic setting ever and within that setting they created all these interesting factions and events that make you submerge into that world and you end up wanting more, you want to experience siding with every faction and sharing their morals which in turn affects if you become good or evil.

That kind of gameplay is addicting and full of replay value and when you do everything you can do in the game you start thinking "Damn, i wish i could be a raider" because you're so engrossed in the lore of the game you want to play every aspect of it.

Am i the only one here that found all the vaults in Fallout 3? even though not all the vaults are not connected to the main story i had to find them all cause i was fascinated by the lore of the game.. also cause i was tracking down all the bobbleheads,

Wpnfire 08-08-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1623388)
I have more than sympathy for Bethesda, i admire them.

Fallout: New Vegas is vastly superior to Fallout 3 by a huge margin though. Bethesda were outdone at their own game by a different developer, it's embarrassing.

Black Francis 08-08-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1623396)
Fallout: New Vegas is vastly superior to Fallout 3 by a huge margin though. Bethesda were outdone at their own game by a different developer, it's embarrassing.

NV is only superior in the sense that the dialogue and story dynamics were more open ended but Fallout 3 had a better world that looked better than NV and wasn't as glitchy.

I prefer NV too but i wouldn't say NV embarrasses Fallout 3, that's a little too much..

Key 08-08-2015 11:28 AM

I don't understand the Bethesda hate.

Justthefacts 08-08-2015 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1623402)
I don't understand the Bethesda hate.

Who hates Bethesda?

Key 08-08-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1623411)
Who hates Bethesda?

Some people in this thread are expressing the issues / distaste they have with Bethesda. Not entirely sure where it's coming from.

Justthefacts 08-08-2015 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1623412)
Some people in this thread are expressing the issues / distaste they have with Bethesda. Not entirely sure where it's coming from.

They're just stirring the pot. We both know damn well those haters have a preordered copy of Fallout 4.

Justthefacts 08-09-2015 10:44 AM

New update
Fallout 4 - How the New Perks System works

Exo 08-09-2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1623415)
They're just stirring the pot. We both know damn well those haters have a preordered copy of Fallout 4.

Ughhhh, pre-order.

Unknown Soldier 08-09-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1623396)
Fallout: New Vegas is vastly superior to Fallout 3 by a huge margin though. Bethesda were outdone at their own game by a different developer, it's embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1623399)
NV is only superior in the sense that the dialogue and story dynamics were more open ended but Fallout 3 had a better world that looked better than NV and wasn't as glitchy.

I prefer NV too but i wouldn't say NV embarrasses Fallout 3, that's a little too much..

I played them both again recently and would honestly say that Fallout 3 was better.

Norg 08-09-2015 06:48 PM

I wish they would do a,location other then united states. I was hoping for Moscow or something

Wpnfire 08-09-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1623892)
I wish they would do a,location other then united states. I was hoping for Moscow or something

They send their programmers out to the actual cities to create accurate models of the area. It would be hella expensive to do that internationally.

Justthefacts 08-10-2015 08:00 PM

Russia would actually be pretty interesting.

The Batlord 08-10-2015 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1623823)
I played them both again recently and would honestly say that Fallout 3 was better.

Play them again and tell me 3 is better. New Vegas has far more replay value. I've sunk so many hours into that game it's retarded, but I only ever played 3 the one time. It was a great run, but after I did everything there wasn't anything else to do.

LoathsomePete 08-11-2015 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1623892)
I wish they would do a,location other then united states. I was hoping for Moscow or something

It's called S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadows of Chernobyl, I mean it's technically in the Ukraine but it's an Eastern European set FPS in a post-apocalyptic environment brought about by radiation that features mutated wild life and bandits as your main source of enemies.

Oriphiel 08-11-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1624363)
Play them again and tell me 3 is better. New Vegas has far more replay value. I've sunk so many hours into that game it's retarded, but I only ever played 3 the one time. It was a great run, but after I did everything there wasn't anything else to do.

I just played them both recently. I can't even leave Goodsprings without being bored to tears, since I've done everything in the Mojave a thousand times, and everything is identical to the last playthrough. Yet I still find a simple kind of joy in wandering the Capitol Wasteland with the difficulty cranked to the max, trying to survive those damn albino radscorpions and other fun random encounters, even long after I've found all of the secrets and the main story has ended. Honestly, both games have their strengths, and Fallout 3 is the one that I usually find myself going back to.

Justthefacts 08-11-2015 12:30 PM

New Vegas had nothing on Fallout 3. The setting, the eerie atmosphere in F3 to me was much preferable over the grlitzy glammy style of New Vegas. I did enjoy New Vegas, even sunk over 200 hours in. But nothing beats A D.C wasteland, except maybe Boston who knows

The Batlord 08-11-2015 12:39 PM

A New York wasteland would trump all.

Justthefacts 08-11-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1624636)
A New York wasteland would trump all.

Hopefully it's Iran.

EPOCH6 08-11-2015 01:04 PM

I love both games and have played through both recently. All that fans who preferred F3 seem to defend over New Vegas is style and atmosphere. And all of that is subjective anyway, I'm a sucker for desert apocalypse styles and a sucker for faction / guild options in RPGs, making NV the more memorable game to me, subjectively. Where New Vegas is objectively superior is in gameplay expansion:

- Larger and more open ended map, less invisible walls, and still more marked locations
- Dynamic multi-path quests, many more main quests and many more side quests
- No more level scaling, much more difficult early on
- Improved VATS balancing, stat balancing, perk balancing
- Multiple factions (less good vs. evil, more realistically flawed organisations)
- Hardcore mode provided a lot more excitement / challenge for RPG oriented fans

In the end obviously personal preference and style prevails and really determines your taste in games, but it can't be denied that New Vegas really put a lot of effort into expanding and improving upon every gameplay element that Fallout 3 fans complained about post-release. And again, I love both games and don't tend to choose favorites, but Fallout: New Vegas deserves recognition for its strengths.

Black Francis 08-11-2015 02:54 PM

And Fallout3 has Liam Neeson, that makes them even.

Fallout3 not only has more memorable settings the story is easier to get into and it's more cinematic, especially in the beginning of the game. NV's plot is more convoluted and starts to branch out to lots of possibilities which is good however since the story is more layered it takes more time to get into it where as the fallout3 story is more easy to follow.

NV starts to get good once you reach the strip but fallout3 is good right from the beginning, Once those vault doors open and you reach Megaton you're already hooked on the story and Megaton is the first town you go to, what's the first town in NV? Boring ass Goodsprings, who the f*ck cares about that place? there's nothing memorable there.

I mean yea you got more options in NV but the location designs and even characters are boring if not forgettable on contrast almost all the locations of fallout3 are memorable..

Unknown Soldier 08-11-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1624363)
Play them again and tell me 3 is better. New Vegas has far more replay value. I've sunk so many hours into that game it's retarded, but I only ever played 3 the one time. It was a great run, but after I did everything there wasn't anything else to do.

I've played them both a couple of times now and think more effort went into Fallout 3 as it feels more epic, whereas NV is kind of milking the cow, still a great game but I don't dig the Vegas strip stuff that much which is very central to the game.

For everybody here, I came across these the other day on Youtube the Fallout Lore Series which in a whole load of episodes charts the history of the Fallout world and it looks pretty in-depth and this is a good time to watch them or recap before Fallout 4 arrives.

These are the first three videos of the series.






The Batlord 08-11-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EPOCH6 (Post 1624650)
I love both games and have played through both recently. All that fans who preferred F3 seem to defend over New Vegas is style and atmosphere. And all of that is subjective anyway, I'm a sucker for desert apocalypse styles and a sucker for faction / guild options in RPGs, making NV the more memorable game to me, subjectively. Where New Vegas is objectively superior is in gameplay expansion:

- Larger and more open ended map, less invisible walls, and still more marked locations
- Dynamic multi-path quests, many more main quests and many more side quests
- No more level scaling, much more difficult early on
- Improved VATS balancing, stat balancing, perk balancing
- Multiple factions (less good vs. evil, more realistically flawed organisations)
- Hardcore mode provided a lot more excitement / challenge for RPG oriented fans

In the end obviously personal preference and style prevails and really determines your taste in games, but it can't be denied that New Vegas really put a lot of effort into expanding and improving upon every gameplay element that Fallout 3 fans complained about post-release. And again, I love both games and don't tend to choose favorites, but Fallout: New Vegas deserves recognition for its strengths.


Don't forget the expanded weapon selection. The guns were kind of basic in 3, but with NV you have a far wider range of choices -- good choices -- than ever before.

Justthefacts 08-11-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1624751)
Don't forget the expanded weapon selection. The guns were kind of basic in 3, but with NV you have a far wider range of choices -- good choices -- than ever before.

And iron sights.

Scarlett O'Hara 08-12-2015 02:21 AM

I pre-ordered it, getting a Nuke Pack. Missed out on a pipboy though. :(

Black Francis 08-12-2015 11:15 AM

That pipboy looks awesome but super impractical.

Im thinking its more of a collector's item than an extension of F4

LoathsomePete 08-12-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1624837)
I pre-ordered it, getting a Nuke Pack. Missed out on a pipboy though. :(

Hope is not lost.

Forget about the Fallout 4 Pip Boy Edition and 3D-print your own | Polygon

Justthefacts 08-12-2015 02:13 PM

The pip boys next year at Comic-Con are inevitable. The people wearing them are just gonna brag about it too

Scarlett O'Hara 08-13-2015 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1624990)
That pipboy looks awesome but super impractical.

Im thinking its more of a collector's item than an extension of F4

But it looks so cool. :(

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1625048)

LoathsomePete you are a legend. Now I need to get access to a 3D printer.


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