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1/5: Not Worth Playing 2 40.00%
2/5: Not Very Very Good 1 20.00%
3/5: Decent 0 0%
4/5: Very Very Good 0 0%
5/5 : A True Classic 2 40.00%
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:01 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with that. Hell, I don't see any of your posts in here as acting like you're some for of elitist or w/e. I could list off many games that I don't like. It seems like you prefer older games as opposed to more up to date games. Maybe that's just my assumption. Again, nothing wrong with that. I'm just the complete opposite.

Plus, not ALL AAA games are like that, but I will admit that a lot of them are pretty crappy. Lots of exceptions tho.

I also do somewhat agree on what you say about critical consensus but if a lot of people like a game and I don't, I do try the game again or I will to play it later. Hell, I didn't play Witcher 3 until several years after its release.
I've liked a few AAA games on the 360, but can't think of one that I loved.
Velvet Assassin is the only one that I still have for my 360, if that one even qualifies. The rest are various arcade games and more obscure stuff like the Armored Core games, Tenchu Z. Oh and I forgot Dragon's Dogma. That one is good.

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It's not even just that it starts slow -- I'm used to that with RPGs -- it's that the story feels like the writing of a hack who desperately wants to make Game of Thrones but all he can do is shallow, grim 'n' gritty nonsense. And while I haven't really explored the combat as I've never gotten more than a couple of hours into the game, it feels at least mildly tedious. And that's not even talking about the ****ty characters: **** Geralt and his macho, wish fulfillment, emotionless voice, corny-haired, stupid-eyed, generic ****hole of a toilet accident characterization.
I only tried to give Witcher 2 a shot one evening, but my experience of it was much the same. One moment made me laugh out loud with how hard the dialogue tried to be "dark" and "mature". Sadly can't remember what it was.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:04 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Games with big budgets are bad games guys
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:10 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Games with big budgets are bad games guys
I don't know if that's what he's implying but if it is, that's just god damn silly.

Certain developers actually improve their game when they get a pretty significant funding behind it or get approved a pretty significant budget. I will say that it can have a negative effect on a games development as well. Plus, more budget means more stuff you can put into a game. Again, it can have a negative effect but I'm more so inclined to check out a game that states they had a big budget behind it. I may not always like it, but its there. That's not always the case of course. As I do love a lot of early access games in general so...

Maybe this is more specifically aimed toward Early Access games, but I'm more than happy to support a developer that is just up front and says that they simply need more funding to get their game going. Dead Cells is a really good example and I know I've hit this nail several times. But they started in Early Access, got people's attention and eventually allowed them to fully complete the game and reach 1.0 status and get out of Early Access. They did in several months btw. I don't think it's even been in development for more than 2 years? I could be wrong. Yeah, wiki confirms that they spent only about a year in Early Access. Pretty amazing tbh.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:27 AM   #24 (permalink)
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AAA game = high budget game
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Fair enough though I still don't know if that's what he's implying. At least I didn't catch it if he was. He did say he played AAA games so idk.
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Big budgets mean investors who really, really, really want to feel guaranteed that they will get their money back, which means compromises imposed on the developers in order to pander to a wider audience so that the money can be made back. Focus group testing, etc. Leads to bland games. AAA games are McDonalds hamburgers.

Sometimes they end up good, but it's almost gonna have to be in spite of the business models they have to conform to.

It's exactly the same reason why the most expensive moves (usually franchise movies with big stars and expensive CGI) are so bland most of the time. The director would mostly not be allowed to make something particularly interesting, because that's entirely too risky when there's a couple hundred million dollars on the line.
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:46 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Woohoo! Another debate!
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My guess is there's not gonna be a debate. I doubt anyone likely to post in this thread would agree, except Elph, cuz he's punk as ****. Down with corporations! Wooo!

Anyway, whether anyone agrees with me that AAA games tend to be boring or not, you gotta agree that they generally can't really afford to take risks or be all that complex or obscure in their style, etc. That's how it works and it would be naïve to believe otherwise. There's a reason why, for example, so many shooter protagonists are just some bland, template white guy that looks like some variant of Nathan Drake, etc. I guarantee you that the creatives making the game would do something more interesting if they weren't handcuffed by the guys in suits who get final say in everything since they put 200 million dollars on the table.
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:56 AM   #29 (permalink)
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^usually I play AAA games if it's in a series that I trust. I don't judge games solely on whether they're AAA or not. You're diminishing your gamin experience when you do that.

It's also not about being punk etc. A lot of AAA games are great.
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Don't think that I'm just ranting blindly. A great deal of my dislike of that category of games comes from having actually played loads of them. Around the time I got my 360, you could find big titles like that in Gamestop for super low prices. I would buy so many over the years, sometimes for as little as the equivalent of a dollar, or less. I also played quite a few back on the PS2 and original Xbox. Generally, I complete very few games, but I've played a disgustingly high amount of different titles over the years. I'm a curious cat.
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