Music and how I got here

Zer0 · 06-10-2013, 03:55 PM

I do admit quite liking The Offspring in the late-90s/early-00's. My older sister had a copy of Americana which I would listen to quite often. Looking back it was the most commercial-sounding 'punk' you could get but to the ears of an oblivious 12 year-old kid it sounded badass. Come to think of it, 'Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)' sounds fucking ridiculous now! It also led me to listening to Blink 182 and Green Day. I do agree that Dexter's voice does sound horrendous, I know it's not 'punk' to be able to actually sing but Dexter just sounds way off. 'The Kids Aren't Alright' is probably the best song off the album and I do admit that's not actually that bad a song, feeling nostalgic just thinking about it.

Speaking of AFI you've just reminded me that a certain album is already ten years old, and I might even give it a relisten and a reassessment soon.

duga · 06-10-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

I agree with you, I can't stand that guys voice, terrible! I didn't like Offspring back in the 90's and I can't stand it now.

If I was to talk about my embarrassing band past it would definitely be Korn. I still listen to them today. I had another listen of their Issues album, played it over and over a month ago and now I'm sick of them again. Next!

Korn will definitely make an appearance on this list. I don't count Americana as a necessarily embarrassing album...just one that has influenced me. More embarrassing albums to come!

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I'm a bit naive when it comes to punk but isn't it perfectly fine to sing off key in punk. Isn't that one of the staples?

That it is...but Dexter's voice just really grates me the wrong way. Which is funny because this is coming from a guy who loves weird sounding singers.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Speaking of AFI you've just reminded me that a certain album is already ten years old, and I might even give it a relisten and a reassessment soon.

Would that be Sing the Sorrow? I still really like that album, actually. It doesn't sound nearly as deep as when I first listened to it, but it's definitely still very entertaining. I actually still enjoy Black Sails in the Sunset and The Art of Drowning as well. It kind of ends there, however.

djchameleon · 06-11-2013, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by duga

Would that be Sing the Sorrow? I still really like that album, actually. It doesn't sound nearly as deep as when I first listened to it, but it's definitely still very entertaining. I actually still enjoy Black Sails in the Sunset and The Art of Drowning as well. It kind of ends there, however.

I got into AFI with Sing the Sorrow so I liked it as much as DecemberUnderground. At the time, I never thought to go backwards and check out their earlier releases but I may do that one day soon. Constantly adding to my growing list of albums I need to listen to.

I take it you didn't like DU huh?

duga · 06-11-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I got into AFI with Sing the Sorrow so I liked it as much as DecemberUnderground. At the time, I never thought to go backwards and check out their earlier releases but I may do that one day soon. Constantly adding to my growing list of albums I need to listen to.

I take it you didn't like DU huh?

Yeah, DU was a little stale for me. I got the impression they were trying to recapture the magic from Sing the Sorrow but it just didn't work very well. Crash Love was even worse.

But yes...aside from Dexter's backing vocals Black Sails in the Sunset is a highly recommended album.

duga · 06-11-2013, 06:20 PM

So after a failed attempt to get into what's popular, I decided not to just go off and buy the number one hit on MTV. Enter my older half sister from my Dad's first marriage.

I always looked up to this girl. She was a lot older than me and everything she did seemed incredibly cool. She also had a kick ass (and quite intimidating at the time) music collection...and since she moved in with us when I was 12 and I had access to it, I decided to start taking my music recommendations from her.

Despite my clear obliviousness to the good music of the world at this age, my sister said something to me I'll never forget. One day while asking her about music, she said to me "Here. You seem to have an appreciation of good music." And handed me this album...

The Preteen Years
Garbage - Garbage (1995)

Not only did her saying that to me influence how I would approach this album, but it has influenced me in how I approach every album to this day. Such a passing comment, and I still think about it. What did she see in me? I didn't want to disappoint her.

I don't really need to listen to this album again to remember it...I still listen to it occasionally to this day. It's a classic. Sadly, I haven't really given any other Garbage album a fair shake. I don't even understand why - I'm sure they have some other good stuff...but this album is so good that it's really all I ever feel like listening to when I want to listen to Garbage. In my book, this is the definitive Garbage album...no musical statement by them had to be made after this.

Sound wise, this was the kind of music that I knew I should have been listening to. Coming down from Savage Garden, I had my pop sensibilities in check but I wanted something heavier. The Offspring clearly didn't work for me. Garbage is polished and dirty. Smooth and chunky. Hard and soft...it had layers to discover with every listen (all thanks to Butch Vig, no doubt). Just look at the cover art...it perfectly represents what this album sounds like. I didn't pay attention to producers at the time, but later in life when I did I wasn't surprised to find that Butch Vig was a member. He is one of my favorite producers of all time and if I see he has worked on an album, I will always give it a chance. Take his grunge-tinged production and Shirley Manson and you have a combination that can't lose. Oh, man...Shirley Manson. She was officially my first music crush. The way she sang and the things she sang about...what had this girl gone through? And damn it...I wanted to make her feel better...

I'm not going to bother going through any individual songs. This album is great top to bottom. This album deserves a listen from absolutely everyone. I'm happy to cut through some of the crappy albums I'll be talking about with this classic. It has undoubtedly influenced me more than any other early-years album I can think of. Thanks for the recommendation, Nicole.

CrazyVegn · 06-11-2013, 08:06 PM

What a great idea to chronologically organize your changing growth in music tastes. I can relate to listening to Garbage circa 1996 on a bus ride back home from a field trip. Some girl borrowed my walkman with Stupid Girl on it only to hand it back less than a minute later. I thought, WTH is wrong with her?.. o.O

duga · 06-12-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyVegn

What a great idea to chronologically organize your changing growth in music tastes. I can relate to listening to Garbage circa 1996 on a bus ride back home from a field trip. Some girl borrowed my walkman with Stupid Girl on it only to hand it back less than a minute later. I thought, WTH is wrong with her?.. o.O

Thanks, I'm glad you think so.

And I would have thought the same thing about that girl. Who can't at least kind of enjoy that album?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-13-2013, 08:10 AM

OMG this is like my favourite journal ever Duga. Garbage fecking rule! I have been listening to them more recently than when they were most popular. I love I'm Only Happy When It Rains, Drop Dead Gorgeous, and Special. Version 2.0 is definitely their best album.

06-10-2013, 03:55 PM	#31 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	I do admit quite liking The Offspring in the late-90s/early-00's. My older sister had a copy of Americana which I would listen to quite often. Looking back it was the most commercial-sounding 'punk' you could get but to the ears of an oblivious 12 year-old kid it sounded badass. Come to think of it, 'Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)' sounds fucking ridiculous now! It also led me to listening to Blink 182 and Green Day. I do agree that Dexter's voice does sound horrendous, I know it's not 'punk' to be able to actually sing but Dexter just sounds way off. 'The Kids Aren't Alright' is probably the best song off the album and I do admit that's not actually that bad a song, feeling nostalgic just thinking about it. Speaking of AFI you've just reminded me that a certain album is already ten years old, and I might even give it a relisten and a reassessment soon. __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

06-11-2013, 06:20 PM	#35 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	So after a failed attempt to get into what's popular, I decided not to just go off and buy the number one hit on MTV. Enter my older half sister from my Dad's first marriage. I always looked up to this girl. She was a lot older than me and everything she did seemed incredibly cool. She also had a kick ass (and quite intimidating at the time) music collection...and since she moved in with us when I was 12 and I had access to it, I decided to start taking my music recommendations from her. Despite my clear obliviousness to the good music of the world at this age, my sister said something to me I'll never forget. One day while asking her about music, she said to me "Here. You seem to have an appreciation of good music." And handed me this album... The Preteen Years Garbage - Garbage (1995) Not only did her saying that to me influence how I would approach this album, but it has influenced me in how I approach every album to this day. Such a passing comment, and I still think about it. What did she see in me? I didn't want to disappoint her. I don't really need to listen to this album again to remember it...I still listen to it occasionally to this day. It's a classic. Sadly, I haven't really given any other Garbage album a fair shake. I don't even understand why - I'm sure they have some other good stuff...but this album is so good that it's really all I ever feel like listening to when I want to listen to Garbage. In my book, this is the definitive Garbage album...no musical statement by them had to be made after this. Sound wise, this was the kind of music that I knew I should have been listening to. Coming down from Savage Garden, I had my pop sensibilities in check but I wanted something heavier. The Offspring clearly didn't work for me. Garbage is polished and dirty. Smooth and chunky. Hard and soft...it had layers to discover with every listen (all thanks to Butch Vig, no doubt). Just look at the cover art...it perfectly represents what this album sounds like. I didn't pay attention to producers at the time, but later in life when I did I wasn't surprised to find that Butch Vig was a member. He is one of my favorite producers of all time and if I see he has worked on an album, I will always give it a chance. Take his grunge-tinged production and Shirley Manson and you have a combination that can't lose. Oh, man...Shirley Manson. She was officially my first music crush. The way she sang and the things she sang about...what had this girl gone through? And damn it...I wanted to make her feel better... I'm not going to bother going through any individual songs. This album is great top to bottom. This album deserves a listen from absolutely everyone. I'm happy to cut through some of the crappy albums I'll be talking about with this classic. It has undoubtedly influenced me more than any other early-years album I can think of. Thanks for the recommendation, Nicole. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

06-13-2013, 08:10 AM	#38 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	OMG this is like my favourite journal ever Duga. Garbage fecking rule! I have been listening to them more recently than when they were most popular. I love I'm Only Happy When It Rains, Drop Dead Gorgeous, and Special. Version 2.0 is definitely their best album. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

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06-11-2013, 08:06 PM	#36 (permalink)
CrazyVegn Left due to ban epidemic Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 498	What a great idea to chronologically organize your changing growth in music tastes. I can relate to listening to Garbage circa 1996 on a bus ride back home from a field trip. Some girl borrowed my walkman with Stupid Girl on it only to hand it back less than a minute later. I thought, WTH is wrong with her?.. o.O