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Old 11-14-2013, 01:14 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Wait, so you've actually been listening to him? Is his music as awful as I hope it is?
I have heard a few songs from him.




I guess this was back in 1999. lol He had an album called Hard to Swallow when he was doing the rock thing.

The 2011 album he did was W.T.F. (Wisdom, Tenacity And Focus) and it's more in line with ICP stuff.

I haven't heard either by the way but I'm tempted to now.

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Old 11-14-2013, 01:38 PM   #162 (permalink)
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I guess this was back in 1999. lol He had an album called Hard to Swallow when he was doing the rock thing.

The 2011 album he did was W.T.F. (Wisdom, Tenacity And Focus) and it's more in line with ICP stuff.

I haven't heard either by the way but I'm tempted to now.

I don't know what the **** that nu metal garbage he was trying to do on the first one was supposed to accomplish, but the second one is fantastic. I mean it shows that all the mockery of his rapping abilities was entirely correct, cause he's terrible, but he's rapping about killing people and it has a goofy chorus where it just repeats "BORN ON HALLOWEEN!" over and over again. I can't wait for the album to drop. Can't. ****ing. Wait.
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Dark Lotus: Tales From the Lotus Pod





Around the '00's the juggalo...thing was in full swing and Psychopathic was striking while the iron was hot and so we get Dark Lotus, a sort of supergroup made up of ICP, Twiztid, Blaze Ya Dead Homie, and some dude called Marz. Yay. Well, all my old juggalo friends seemed to love this thing, so here we go...




A friend gave me a burned copy of this album years ago, but it's too fucked up to listen to more than half the album so I'm only slightly familiar with this. This sounds about what I remember, not bad at all, but not brilliant either. The performances are perfectly entertaining, but nothing that you couldn't get off any of the member's normal albums, so this doesn't feel all that necessary. They generally stay away from the juggalo anthems, and go for a darker overall sound and tone than a lot of what was going on at the time, but this is all relative as there's really nothing on here that's particularly menacing.

The lyrics are what you'd expect from these groups, but unfortunately they're also what you'd expect from this time period: violent, but watered-down, weird(ish), but nothing to compare to ICP's or even Twiztid's old school material, quasi-religious, but overly-simplistic and eye-rollingly working class.

If you're a juggalo then this might be fantastic, but if you're not then this just comes off as dull and vanilla. This isn't so much a swing-and-a-miss as it is a perfectly good bunt. I'd bump this when I was on the tail end of an ICP binge, but by that time I'd be about ready to listen to something else anyway. So, in other words...meh.

P.S. Apparently Violent J didn't like Marz's contributions so he later remixed the album and replaced his verses with Anybody Killa, calling it now "definitive". Any album that is made "definitive" by the addition of Anybody Killa was probably a turd to begin with.


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Old 11-15-2013, 10:51 AM   #164 (permalink)
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My Year As a Quasi-Juggalo: Part I





I've been listening to metal for well over a decade now, but since I've never really met anyone in real life who shared my specific tastes in heavy music (aside from the odd metalcore/deathcore kid and they certainly don't count) my relationship with metal has always been almost entirely musical. And while I treasure the relationships I've cultivated in the last two years or so on this site, our lack of "real life" face time has limited our effects on one another's lives. But though my flirtation with the juggalo world was relatively brief the intensity of my immersion into it has had a greater impact on my personal life than any other genre. Weird. Anyway, now that I've been submerging myself back into ICP and Twiztid and...others over the bast couple of weeks a lot of shit from that time period has been surfacing, and if you'll indugle me I'd like to take a little trip down memory lane...

Perhaps appropriately it all begins with Pizza Hut. After six months of sitting on my ass playing with myself after losing my job at Burger King I finally managed to drag my sadsack-ass out of my cave (mother's house) and get a fucking job and one of the places I applied was Pizza Slut. The manager I talked to when I walked through the door to pick up an application, let's just call him "Adam" (which isn't much of a stretch since his name was Adam), would end up becoming a good friend for almost two years and give me a crash course in the the juggalo world with his encyclopedic knowledge of all things Psychopathic. After I applied he's even the one who got my hired, thinking that my putting down "Fishburne Military School" as my high school meant that I'd actually been in the military. Score.

So pretty soon I was wearing a red shirt and black hat made of synthetic fibers and stealing pepperoni and flavorless sausage on the regular and had been introduced to the second member of what would become my little circle of juggalo friends, Billy. Over the next couple of weeks Adam, Billy, and another guy who we hung out with every once in a blue moon named Joe introduced me to the concepts of ICP, Twiztid, and juggalos, which I had been almost entirely ignorant of. At the time I couldn't have given less of a shit, but Adam was one of those rare juggalos who actually liked real hip hop so we managed to bond a little bit over a shared musical obsession even if we were coming from two entirely different places. To this day he's probably the only one I've ever met in real life to spend as much as I do on CD's. Still, they were only coworkers and not much more.

Then one day Billy asks me if I wanna go for a drink at the bar across the street and next thing you know we were almost inseparable. Billy's one of the most socially awkward people I've ever met but is so self-absorbed that he either doesn't notice or doesn't care. So we had that in common. Now he'd just started hanging with Adam a little while before I'd met them and occasionally spent time at what I'll just call "The Compound" (though none of us ever had the presence of mind to come up with such a cool name). One half of The Compound was Adam's house where he lived with his mother. The other was the house of his neighbor Brandon, a big, thirty-year old, kid who was more than a little bit of a burnout and loved ICP, where he lived with his wife, daughter, and brother Gerald. At some point Billy ended up inviting me to chill over at Brandon's house (inviting me to someone else's house is just the kid of inconsiderate, clueless guy he is) and then it all started to snowball. Billy and I were hanging out, Adam, a career wigger with an elephant-size chip on his shoulder, and I started getting really tight with late night bouts of booze, music, and long conversations at his house, and occasionally we'd all head over to Brandon's. Times were good but shit was still pretty low key until Bang, Pow, Boom dropped, ICP's newest album.

As a CD junkie, Adam immediately went out and got all three versions, red, blue, and green, and for god knows how many months I was subjected to them on a regular basis. At first I was indifferent but eventually "In Yo Face" and "Bang, Pow, Boom" and "Juggalo Island" started to get under my skin in a big way. That album sort of lit a fire under all of our asses. Adam and Brandon had been kind of slacking in their juggalocity (no that's not an actual thing but it is now so tell your friends) in recent years due to age, life, and a slump in the quality of recent Psychopathic albums, but the combination of the best album ICP had released in years and a group of people to get excited about it with rejuvenated their passion. Billy was sorta like I am now. He loved the things he loved about juggalo music but couldn't give less of a fuck about the rest. But he loved Bang, Pow, Boom. Then of course there was Brandon's longtime friend Mike, who was far too into his thirties to be nursing a grudge against Eminem for his beef with ICP, but I surely can't forget about him (fuck the Stealers). Even Brandon's middle-age brother Gerald, who'd apparently never been much into the whole bag, was won over.

The watershed moment for me would have to have been the ICP show shortly after. We'd all been bumping the new album for around a month at the time, even I'd bought the green version, and I was pretty stoked to say the least. I don't remember the exact details of that night, but if it was anything like our usual routine then I imagine it went something like this: get off work, catch a ride with Billy over to Brandon's, drink beer, smoke bowl, drink beer, drink beer, drink beer, smoke bowl, go pee in the bushes by the screened-in porch where we're all hanging out, Brandon's wife makes passive aggressive remark about us peeing in her yard, drink beer, smoke bowl, get laughed at for lighting a cig when I've already got two still burning in the ash tray, everybody laughs at Brandon for same, drink one last beer, smoke one last bowl, drink one more one last beer, smoke one more one last bowl, pile into Billy's SUV and make the twenty-minute drive to the concert with a bowl on the way, park in garage next to venue, exchange "Whoop whoops!"'s with random juggalos on the street, and then we go in...

You douchenozzles can say what you like but an ICP show is an event not to be missed. Sure their fans are turds, but when you're waiting for the show to start, and the electricity is in the air, and some random dude in a backwards baseball cap shouts "Who's goin' chicken' huntin'?!" and every white trash motherfucker in earshot shouts back "WE'S GOIN' CHICKEN' HUNTIN'!" then you've gotta be sippin' on some serious Haterade to not feel like joining in. But their fans were the least of the spectacle. Even the two party girls making out right next to me paled into insignificance when Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope took the stage and "In Yo Face" hit me in the aforementioned face. Those middle-age fucks ran across that stage bouncing around with more energy than any band half their age with songs perfectly tailored to demolish a concert hall. And the Faygo? Oh man, the Faygo. Spraying, shooting, throwing, and pouring Faygo onto an audience has got to be one of the greatest ideas anyone's ever had and I say that with zero irony. Music already gives you auditory and emotional stimuli, and a live show adds a visual component, but spraying soda on the audience gives you a physical connection to the music that is uniquely intense. When that Faygo hits you in the face and runs down your shirt, soaks your pants right down to your underwear, it's like all the energy of the band gets transferred right into you and a wave of pure euphoria washes over the entire audience. I don't even remember most of that show, and it wasn't because of the booze or the weed. It was an honest-to-god natural high that made time stand still, and yet it only felt like five minutes had past until confetti rained down from the ceiling, ICP played their last song, "Bang Pow Boom", and I was left standing there, soaked to the bone, wondering where the fuck the last hour had gone. Afterwards I imagined we packed back up into Billy's truck, went back to Brandon's house, and got back to drinking and smoking and peeing. Unfortunately it was cold as fuck that night and I didn't have a change of clothes until Gerald took pity on me and gave me some of his clothes so I was sick as a dog the next day.

But it was totally fucking worth it.


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Ironically enough, I ran across an interview with ICP not all that long ago that confirmed one of the strangest things ever -- their whole career has been a front to convert the Juggalo masses to Christianity all along!

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Ironically enough, I ran across an interview with ICP not all that long ago that confirmed one of the strangest things ever -- their whole career has been a front to convert the Juggalo masses to Christianity all along!

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I've heard the same thing. Sounds like a half-truth. You don't rap about killing people with an axe to relate to the youth, you do it because you're a young goon with a testosterone overload.

And I get the feeling that it's more of a weird combination of black and white Christian philosophy and deism. If you listen to some of their lyrics they actually claim to not go to church and Violent J actually mentions using "Bible pages when rolling my grass" and telling a priest to "eat a dick". I think they just kind of have something against organized religion in general.
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