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Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-06-2014, 11:07 AM

Motorhead came out around 1976 with the whole punk thing going on around them and out lived all those bands when punk died because although they were popular with the punk audience they didn't get too close.

By the time the NWOBHM started in late 1979 Motorhead had already had a lot of success in the British charts and didn't really need to tie themselves into that scene either.

By staying clear of them they've probably prolonged their career, but as far as Lemmy is concerned they're just a Rock n Roll band.

Isbjørn · 03-06-2014, 11:08 AM

Chunks of metal: thrash metal

Artist: Metallica
Album: Ride the Lightning
Year: 1984
Chronological posision: Sophomore album
Genre: Thrash metal
Expectations before listening: Some sort of intermediate between Kill 'Em All and Master of Puppets

Oh yes, Metallica. I really think this is the band for me, but I guess I shouldn't speak before having heard this album, which is considered by many to be their best effort ever (when it's not Master of Puppets, of course). Also, apparently this album marks their first of like, twenty changes in musical direction. How many albums have they released? Alright, eight then.

My damn, this is good! I think I love everything about it. The interludes, the riffs, the vocals, and the lyrics. Especially the lyrics, they're brilliant and go together so well with the music. For instance, there's "Fade to Black", with the suicidal lyrics accompanied by a rather slow ballad-ish instrumentation, and "Ride the Lightning", in which a man dreams about being executed with the electrical chair, which has an overall aggressive feel (though it doesn't feel too brutal) to go with the lyrics. In the end, I'll just say that I really wish I had listened to this sooner.

5/5

The Batlord · 03-06-2014, 11:17 AM

RtL is probably my fav Metallica album. I don't listen to nearly as much thrash as I used to, so Master of Puppets and And Justice for All get a lot less play these days, but Kill 'Em All, with its musical links to the NWOBHM which I love more and more every day, and Ride the Lightning, being so diverse, still get played to death. Or at least Ride the Lightning would if my copy weren't so ****ed.

Unknown Soldier · 03-06-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks

[CENTER][SIZE=6][B]Chunks of metal: heavy metal Uhm, well, I'm not sure whether this can really pass as metal, and we were aware when selecting it, but it'll have to do. Wikipedia and Unknown Soldier both say it's metal, anyway

Why don't you think this album is metal? Personally I'd say it was one of the most metal albums of its time. I mean you couldn't get more metal than Eddie Van Halen on guitar. Also worth remembering is that Van Halen being an American band had a distinctive take on metal compared to a lot of their UK counterparts, which means that US metal bands sounded very different to their UK counterparts.

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Originally Posted by Briks

Then what's with Motörhead being classified by many as simply "hard rock"?

As Urban said they were formed in 1976 and hard rock was a more accurate moniker for most heavy bands than heavy metal. The heavy metal label really only became the dominant label post 1980. Since then Motorhead have usually been labelled as both.

Isbjørn · 03-07-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Also worth remembering is that Van Halen being an American band had a distinctive take on metal compared to a lot of their UK counterparts, which means that US metal bands sounded very different to their UK counterparts.

I think I read somewhere that on the true fathers of metal, American and British papers tend to disagree; the former usually claim it's Led Zeppelin, while the latter sticks to Black Sabbath. Is that because the two bands influenced different types of metal? That is, Led Zeppelin inspired mostly American Bands, while British bands took more influence from Black Sabbath?

Isbjørn · 03-08-2014, 11:07 AM

Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath

Year: 1984
Chronological position: Sophomore
Genre: "Blackened" heavy metal
Expectations before listening: That I'll love it as long as I don't take it too seriously

Tracklist:

"A Dangerous Meeting"
"Nightmare"
"Desecration of Souls"
"Night of the Unborn"
"The Oath"
"Gypsy"
"Welcome Princes of Hell"
"To One Far Away"
"Come to the Sabbath"

Alright, I've hesitated too long. It was time I sat down and gave this a listen, after all the good things I've heard about Mercyful Fate (and this album in particular) and King Diamond's vocal skills. The reason I waited was because of the satanic themes on the album, but after hearing Venom, deciding to not take metal all that seriously and deciding that I can enjoy someone's work without necessarily agreeing with their personal opinions (unless it's Varg and the likes, I'm not at that point yet and I likely won't go that far, either), I thought I could handle this.

Well, the album kicks off with A Dangerous Meeting, one of my favorites from the album because of its excellent riffing and melody in addition to the rather... mild lyrics. The follow-up, Nightmare, is also a great track, and I just love the synthesized instrumental in the middle of it. Another outstanding track is The Oath, which is, lyrically, the heaviest track on the album, and has some good organ in it to support the powerfulness. Even though Gypsy is the shortest (and least progressive) of the non-instrumental tracks, I think it's a pretty good song. There's also Welcome Princes of Hell, a solid song which starts out a bit slower than the other tracks but still contains some great soloing. Following it there is a short instrumental, To One Far Away, and then Come to the Sabbath which brings the album to a close.

Well, what can I say? This is some great metal I surely would've missed if I were only a little less open-minded. King Diamond's vocals are fantastic, and he manages to do the falsetto without inducing ear-bleeding. Note that even though I wrote "blackened" heavy metal as this album's genre, this musically sounds more like Iron Maiden than say, Bathory or Immortal. The only blackened parts of this are the lyrics and imagery.

5/5

Isbjørn · 03-09-2014, 02:34 PM

To whom it may concern:

I'll be absent for the next few days. Roxy is sending me to prison camp for scrobbling (and liking) Van Halen. Don't worry, there'll be some sort of update later this week.

The Batlord · 03-10-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks

I'll be absent for the next few days.

Isbjørn · 03-10-2014, 11:13 AM

There's Wi-Fi here, though. Just means I won't write in my journal and that I'll limit my forum lurking.

Isbjørn · 03-12-2014, 10:17 AM

Briks' bitching entry in which he bitches about his trip to Snow-Hell

Finally, I'm back in Journalland. School sent me to a youth hostel, which resembled the Overlook Hotel just a tiny bit, where I was forced to sleep for two nights. Of course, there was snow, and lots of it. That means skiing. Let me clear up these things:

Not all Norwegians love skiing
For many, skiing is only tradition
Most Norwegians are only averagely skilled at skiing

I don't really like skiing. I prefer walking, by far. Also, I don't like snow, at least not lots of it.
Imagine a great, green valley. Tall mountains surround you at all sides, and at your left flows a river. It's a beautiful scene. Then imagine the same valley with the same mountains and the same river, except someone shat snow on it all, like two meters. No matter which way you turn, there's snow, and there's no escaping it. Also, it's cold, so you have to put on forty layers of clothes, which after a while makes you hot as balls. Then you proceed to take some of the clothes off, which in turn makes you cold as frozen balls.

Then, of course, there are the downsides of sharing a room with someone. You start hating them just a little bit more for every day that passes. Soon, you're so fed up with all the "your mom" jokes and farting contests that you just want to curl up in fetal position under a blanket.
From staying at the "Overlook Hotel", I've acquired:

Traumas from the dirty floors/walls/toilets/everythings
Sunburns, though mostly on my nose (I look like Rudolph)
A hatred for snow

But frankly, it wasn't all that bad, yet I will not cover the (roughly) 90% of it that I liked. It's not fun to write about, you know?

03-06-2014, 11:07 AM	#91 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Motorhead came out around 1976 with the whole punk thing going on around them and out lived all those bands when punk died because although they were popular with the punk audience they didn't get too close. By the time the NWOBHM started in late 1979 Motorhead had already had a lot of success in the British charts and didn't really need to tie themselves into that scene either. By staying clear of them they've probably prolonged their career, but as far as Lemmy is concerned they're just a Rock n Roll band. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-06-2014, 11:08 AM	#92 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Chunks of metal: thrash metal Artist: Metallica Album: Ride the Lightning Year: 1984 Chronological posision: Sophomore album Genre: Thrash metal Expectations before listening: Some sort of intermediate between Kill 'Em All and Master of Puppets Oh yes, Metallica. I really think this is the band for me, but I guess I shouldn't speak before having heard this album, which is considered by many to be their best effort ever (when it's not Master of Puppets, of course). Also, apparently this album marks their first of like, twenty changes in musical direction. How many albums have they released? Alright, eight then. My damn, this is good! I think I love everything about it. The interludes, the riffs, the vocals, and the lyrics. Especially the lyrics, they're brilliant and go together so well with the music. For instance, there's "Fade to Black", with the suicidal lyrics accompanied by a rather slow ballad-ish instrumentation, and "Ride the Lightning", in which a man dreams about being executed with the electrical chair, which has an overall aggressive feel (though it doesn't feel too brutal) to go with the lyrics. In the end, I'll just say that I really wish I had listened to this sooner. 5/5 __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

03-08-2014, 11:07 AM	#96 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath Year: 1984 Chronological position: Sophomore Genre: "Blackened" heavy metal Expectations before listening: That I'll love it as long as I don't take it too seriously Tracklist: "A Dangerous Meeting" "Nightmare" "Desecration of Souls" "Night of the Unborn" "The Oath" "Gypsy" "Welcome Princes of Hell" "To One Far Away" "Come to the Sabbath" Alright, I've hesitated too long. It was time I sat down and gave this a listen, after all the good things I've heard about Mercyful Fate (and this album in particular) and King Diamond's vocal skills. The reason I waited was because of the satanic themes on the album, but after hearing Venom, deciding to not take metal all that seriously and deciding that I can enjoy someone's work without necessarily agreeing with their personal opinions (unless it's Varg and the likes, I'm not at that point yet and I likely won't go that far, either), I thought I could handle this. Well, the album kicks off with A Dangerous Meeting, one of my favorites from the album because of its excellent riffing and melody in addition to the rather... mild lyrics. The follow-up, Nightmare, is also a great track, and I just love the synthesized instrumental in the middle of it. Another outstanding track is The Oath, which is, lyrically, the heaviest track on the album, and has some good organ in it to support the powerfulness. Even though Gypsy is the shortest (and least progressive) of the non-instrumental tracks, I think it's a pretty good song. There's also Welcome Princes of Hell, a solid song which starts out a bit slower than the other tracks but still contains some great soloing. Following it there is a short instrumental, To One Far Away, and then Come to the Sabbath which brings the album to a close. Well, what can I say? This is some great metal I surely would've missed if I were only a little less open-minded. King Diamond's vocals are fantastic, and he manages to do the falsetto without inducing ear-bleeding. Note that even though I wrote "blackened" heavy metal as this album's genre, this musically sounds more like Iron Maiden than say, Bathory or Immortal. The only blackened parts of this are the lyrics and imagery. 5/5 __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal Last edited by Isbjørn; 03-08-2014 at 11:25 AM.

03-09-2014, 02:34 PM	#97 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	To whom it may concern: I'll be absent for the next few days. Roxy is sending me to prison camp for scrobbling (and liking) Van Halen. Don't worry, there'll be some sort of update later this week. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

03-10-2014, 11:13 AM	#99 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	There's Wi-Fi here, though. Just means I won't write in my journal and that I'll limit my forum lurking. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

03-12-2014, 10:17 AM	#100 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Briks' bitching entry in which he bitches about his trip to Snow-Hell Finally, I'm back in Journalland. School sent me to a youth hostel, which resembled the Overlook Hotel just a tiny bit, where I was forced to sleep for two nights. Of course, there was snow, and lots of it. That means skiing. Let me clear up these things: Not all Norwegians love skiing For many, skiing is only tradition Most Norwegians are only averagely skilled at skiing I don't really like skiing. I prefer walking, by far. Also, I don't like snow, at least not lots of it. Imagine a great, green valley. Tall mountains surround you at all sides, and at your left flows a river. It's a beautiful scene. Then imagine the same valley with the same mountains and the same river, except someone shat snow on it all, like two meters. No matter which way you turn, there's snow, and there's no escaping it. Also, it's cold, so you have to put on forty layers of clothes, which after a while makes you hot as balls. Then you proceed to take some of the clothes off, which in turn makes you cold as frozen balls. Then, of course, there are the downsides of sharing a room with someone. You start hating them just a little bit more for every day that passes. Soon, you're so fed up with all the "your mom" jokes and farting contests that you just want to curl up in fetal position under a blanket. From staying at the "Overlook Hotel", I've acquired: Traumas from the dirty floors/walls/toilets/everythings Sunburns, though mostly on my nose (I look like Rudolph) A hatred for snow But frankly, it wasn't all that bad, yet I will not cover the (roughly) 90% of it that I liked. It's not fun to write about, you know? __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal