Retro gems: From NES to the PS

Black Francis · 05-23-2015, 09:30 AM

Those fighting controls to me is the biggest contribution SF has done for the genre. This game also made the music of the stages actually relevant

No one cared about the music of fighting games before this game and to this day SF2 has one of the most nostalgic soundtracks of any game.

On a personal note, i used to love the Street fighter 2: Hyper championship edition Arcade machine but not the official one, the hacked one

The arcade machine i played was even faster and more broken than this one, i remember using Balrog to beat it cause his special punches also came with 2 hadoukens

That's all i have to say about SF2 but not about hacked arcade machines, the next game i'll be covering Mortal Kombat also had a hacked arcade machine

Black Francis · 05-23-2015, 09:04 PM

Mortal Kombat 1 & 2

I have to cover MK 1 & 2 because covering just MK1 simply wasn't enough, If Street fighter set a new standard for fighting games MK took that standard and violently raised it

Now, before MK there were fighting games were you could kill your opponents, for example Time killers

In this game you could chop up your opponents to bits and this game was around the same time MK first came out but MK1 brilliantly set a more gruesome and realistic tone simply by using digitized graphics of real actors instead of using animation.

I kidd you not, when MK1 first came out and kids saw this

we flipped the f*ck out, and when parents saw it they flipped out too and gave MK the first ever MA rating in a videogame

Black Francis · 05-23-2015, 09:07 PM

I remember discussing MK1 with friends when it first came out, i was like 9 and me and my friends were a little scared of the game. We loved it but it shocked us as well, i remember seeing Kano's fatality and being legitimately in awe

Eventually we got used to the violence and then here comes MK2 and all MK fans lost their sh*t

Now they had more characters, an evil emperor Shao kahn, Hidden characters Like Jade and Noob Saibot and now each character had 5 fatalities, 2 regular ones a Babality a Friendship and a pit fatality

Fighting games would not be what they are today withouth MK, This game introduced legit gore to fighting games, something fighting games needed.

The Batlord · 05-23-2015, 09:28 PM

I was a tyke when those games came out, and they pretty much divided my video game timeline into pre- and post-Mortal Kombat. Not saying they were the best games ever invented, but I don't think most people -- gamers or otherwise -- really thought of video games as anything other than kids' toys, but after MK there was kind of a quantum shift in mentality. Limits people weren't even bothering to notice had now been broken.

Oh, and shout out to the first MK movie. The second one was garbage, but the first will forever have a piece of my childhood.

Black Francis · 05-23-2015, 10:25 PM

Really? i prefer the 2nd MK movie mainly cause Sonya was alot hotter in that one.

To be honest both films disappointed me, the 1st one had great casting (except for Sonya) and the 2nd one was too cheesy.

I forgot to say, MK2 also had a hacked arcade machine were you could perform multiple fatalities at a time. in hacked Mk2 machines Kintaro was your first opponent

i never mastered the hacked version but i sure got my ass beat by pro players, the most impressive one was one that used Johnny cage and ripped 5 heads out of me THEN turned me into a baby AND THEN did a friendship like a total badass.

I didn't even mind losing, it was amazing to see.
Ive never played a hacked Mk3 and i don't see any hacked arcade machines anymore but the MK2 and SF2 ones were amazing, they were hyper-broken versions of the original game.

The Batlord · 05-24-2015, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Really? i prefer the 2nd MK movie mainly cause Sonya was alot hotter in that one.

To be honest both films disappointed me, the 1st one had great casting (except for Sonya) and the 2nd one was too cheesy.

The first one actually had a semi-working plot, as opposed to the pure ****fest that was the sequel. It was ripped off from Enter the Dragon, but it was still an actual plot.

Besides, Johnny was alive in the first movie, and he was easily the best thing it had going for it.

Oriphiel · 05-24-2015, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis

Really? i prefer the 2nd MK movie mainly cause Sonya was alot hotter in that one.

To be honest both films disappointed me, the 1st one had great casting (except for Sonya) and the 2nd one was too cheesy.

I forgot to say, MK2 also had a hacked arcade machine were you could perform multiple fatalities at a time. in hacked Mk2 machines Kintaro was your first opponent

i never mastered the hacked version but i sure got my ass beat by pro players, the most impressive one was one that used Johnny cage and ripped 5 heads out of me THEN turned me into a baby AND THEN did a friendship like a total badass.

I didn't even mind losing, it was amazing to see.
Ive never played a hacked Mk3 and i don't see any hacked arcade machines anymore but the MK2 and SF2 ones were amazing, they were hyper-broken versions of the original game.

Ha ha ha ha, yes! "Kidd Thunder!!"

Black Francis · 05-24-2015, 10:19 AM

Thnx for that vid Ori, it's hard to explain how crazy hacked arcade machines were.

Alright this next game is not as important as MK or SF but it facilitated the transition to 3d fighting games and that game was

Virtua Fighter

Not only is this the first 3d fighting game this game also defined the physics of 3d fighting games for a long time, games like Tekken or even Bloody Roar expanded on what VF created but imo Virtua fighter was still a better fighting game cause it played more smoothly.

The problem with VF and why it eventually got trumped by other 3d fighting games is that VF wasn't a very flashy game. the fighting mechanics and characters were too simple and plain, see Tekken had Kazuya & Heihachi memorable characters with a story arc and interesting sh*t but VF had none of that.

Still, VF laid the groundwork for 3D fighting games and it deserves recognition for that.

Oriphiel · 05-24-2015, 02:30 PM

Virtua Fighter was some good times. The original Dynasty Warriors, back when it was a 3-D fighting game rather than a hack 'n slash series, came out not long after it, on the Playstation. And who could forget the insanity of Bushido Blade?

Aux-In · 05-24-2015, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

The Legend of Kage

Legend of Kage of was cool. I don't think I ever got past level 2. All I did was just jump around the trees because that game's jumping dynamics were quick and cool. Excitebike was great too.

Mortal Kombat: I knew at the time that Nintendo's decision to remove the blood from the Super Nintendo game would look stupid from a historical perspective. Looking back, that holds true. The first movie was never that great as a movie, but great for what it actually was if you were a fan of the game. Learned recently that the guy that played Kano died in 2003.

05-23-2015, 09:30 AM	#61 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Those fighting controls to me is the biggest contribution SF has done for the genre. This game also made the music of the stages actually relevant No one cared about the music of fighting games before this game and to this day SF2 has one of the most nostalgic soundtracks of any game. On a personal note, i used to love the Street fighter 2: Hyper championship edition Arcade machine but not the official one, the hacked one The arcade machine i played was even faster and more broken than this one, i remember using Balrog to beat it cause his special punches also came with 2 hadoukens That's all i have to say about SF2 but not about hacked arcade machines, the next game i'll be covering Mortal Kombat also had a hacked arcade machine __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-23-2015, 09:04 PM	#62 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Mortal Kombat 1 & 2 I have to cover MK 1 & 2 because covering just MK1 simply wasn't enough, If Street fighter set a new standard for fighting games MK took that standard and violently raised it Now, before MK there were fighting games were you could kill your opponents, for example Time killers In this game you could chop up your opponents to bits and this game was around the same time MK first came out but MK1 brilliantly set a more gruesome and realistic tone simply by using digitized graphics of real actors instead of using animation. I kidd you not, when MK1 first came out and kids saw this we flipped the fck out, and when parents saw it they flipped out too and gave MK the first ever MA rating in a videogame __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-23-2015, 09:07 PM	#63 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	I remember discussing MK1 with friends when it first came out, i was like 9 and me and my friends were a little scared of the game. We loved it but it shocked us as well, i remember seeing Kano's fatality and being legitimately in awe Eventually we got used to the violence and then here comes MK2 and all MK fans lost their sht Now they had more characters, an evil emperor Shao kahn, Hidden characters Like Jade and Noob Saibot and now each character had 5 fatalities, 2 regular ones a Babality* a Friendship and a pit fatality Fighting games would not be what they are today withouth MK, This game introduced legit gore to fighting games, something fighting games needed. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-23-2015, 10:25 PM	#65 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Really? i prefer the 2nd MK movie mainly cause Sonya was alot hotter in that one. To be honest both films disappointed me, the 1st one had great casting (except for Sonya) and the 2nd one was too cheesy. I forgot to say, MK2 also had a hacked arcade machine were you could perform multiple fatalities at a time. in hacked Mk2 machines Kintaro was your first opponent i never mastered the hacked version but i sure got my ass beat by pro players, the most impressive one was one that used Johnny cage and ripped 5 heads out of me THEN turned me into a baby AND THEN did a friendship like a total badass. I didn't even mind losing, it was amazing to see. Ive never played a hacked Mk3 and i don't see any hacked arcade machines anymore but the MK2 and SF2 ones were amazing, they were hyper-broken versions of the original game. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-24-2015, 10:19 AM	#68 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Thnx for that vid Ori, it's hard to explain how crazy hacked arcade machines were. Alright this next game is not as important as MK or SF but it facilitated the transition to 3d fighting games and that game was Virtua Fighter Not only is this the first 3d fighting game this game also defined the physics of 3d fighting games for a long time, games like Tekken or even Bloody Roar expanded on what VF created but imo Virtua fighter was still a better fighting game cause it played more smoothly. The problem with VF and why it eventually got trumped by other 3d fighting games is that VF wasn't a very flashy game. the fighting mechanics and characters were too simple and plain, see Tekken had Kazuya & Heihachi memorable characters with a story arc and interesting sht but VF had none of that. Still, VF laid the groundwork for 3D fighting games and it deserves recognition for that. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-24-2015, 02:30 PM	#69 (permalink)
Oriphiel Ask me how! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The States Posts: 5,355	Virtua Fighter was some good times. The original Dynasty Warriors, back when it was a 3-D fighting game rather than a hack 'n slash series, came out not long after it, on the Playstation. And who could forget the insanity of Bushido Blade?