Yeah it's really hard to be a fan of Modest Mouse's older stuff and not so much their newer stuff especially when you tell someone about them being one of your favorite bands. They're like "Oh the Dashboard band?" and its like argh "No fuck you the Float On band." Not that Good News is any better.

The only MM album I've ever had is this one, actually, so maybe somebody can help me out here: are the vocals that crazy on the older albums too?

best song is "invisible", one of modest mouse's best ever

I have not heard any of their other albums so I have nothing to compare it to. I checked this one out from the library because my friend is a big fan and is trying to get me into them. I think it's ok but not great. Apparantly I picked the wrong album to start listening to MM.

yeah, it sure is very "ok". if anybody claims this was a fantastic album, they ought to go to a music psychologist.

I'm actually shocked by the amount of people who think this is such a great album. It's a subpar album by a great band and that's why I don't like it.

Its probably my fave MM albums out of the few i've heard :D

I love it because cunt-faced MM fans loathe it.

I saw them a number of years back play with the Flamming Lips and Cake and I had never heard them. When I asked someone who came for MM what they sounded like, the reply was "there the reason I live and breathe"

I hope she and her miserable ilk tied the belt around their neck when this came out.

You like an album just because people don't like it? How very soulful of you.

Well thats an atrocious call back.

What it really comes down to is that there are expectations based upon factors that in no way dictate or serve as a precursor to those expectations. Theres no Modest Mouse formula per say. Simply because we put some people in a room whose sum equates to Modest Mouse does not mean the same math will yield The Moon and Antarctica.

But people still believe it should. And they believe failure to do so is simply incorrect.

And so to rebel against those who stand on the mountaintop and profess an illogicality and then to take it even further and condemn others for not blindly following their faulty logic, well it just borders on the zealousness of religion.

In short, if you didn't like this album you oppose same sex marriage and abortion rights and you should stop eating meat on fridays and onyl have sex when you're married.

Its all laid out right there.