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View Poll Results: David Bowie - "★" (Rating out of 5)
1/5 2 6.67%
2/5 0 0%
3/5 2 6.67%
4/5 11 36.67%
5/5 15 50.00%
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:51 AM   #61 (permalink)
 
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Sort of implies that the only way an album gets a 4 or above is through rose-colored nostalgia goggles
To be fair, the album is elevated in context. I increased my rating after hearing it again because suddenly the lyrical/musical content was so much more meaningful.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:52 AM   #62 (permalink)
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To be fair, the album is elevated in context. I increased my rating after hearing it again because suddenly the lyrical/musical content was so much more meaningful.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:51 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Not to mention, the classic albums have been around longer to get that kind of "classic" notoriety. And most of the modern live albums are classic bands, anyway.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:55 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I'm so glad I can prove through notarized screenshots from this thread that I liked Blackstar before it was cool.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:58 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I'm so glad I can prove through notarized screenshots from this thread that I liked Blackstar before it was cool.


Rated 4.4 on Sputnik, only Ziggy is rated higher.
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Old 01-13-2016, 02:03 PM   #66 (permalink)
 
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Rated 4.4 on Sputnik, only Ziggy is rated higher.
It's also got one of the highest ever user scores on Metacritic with 9.3.
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Old 01-14-2016, 04:06 AM   #67 (permalink)
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I like Blackstar. I've heard it maybe 3 or 4 times and it's a comfortable 4/5 for me. Definitely the best thing since Scary Monsters.

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Sort of implies that the only way an album gets a 4 or above is through rose-colored nostalgia goggles
A more likely explanation is that newer albums have more breadth of exposure once they become highly rated or popular enough (i.e. trending), often to people who wouldn't normally listen to that kind of music. Consider the number of metalheads who have given recent Kanye and Kendrick albums a spin (maybe because they saw them mentioned on Pitchfork or whatever)... their evaluations probably lower the average, on average. Meanwhile, someone who listens predominantly to indie or soul has little incentive to check out a 70s Blue Oyster Cult album, leaving it to be rated by people who are more likely to be partial towards that kind of music (or people who already like it)

In a similar vein, people have more reason to react negatively to things which are injected into their spheres. Using RYM as an example, think of the number of people who give 0.5 star ratings to bands/artists perceived as shitty (Limp Bizkit, Disturbed, Shakira etc.), often in a knee jerk fit of rage after being reminded of their existence (via radio perhaps), igniting repressed and deep seated hatred originally caused by being subjected to their music when it first came out. Or the kvlt metalheads who reflexively slam Opeth for being 'fag metal' on principle. Or the people who downrate a trending Arcade Fire or Fleet Foxes album, on principle on account of it being indie. I suspect older albums are less susceptible to the sphere effect and clique treatment.

Then there's the consideration that many of the mediocre/crap albums of the past have been weeded out by the sands of time, such that the albums of the past which are talked about are effectively the better than average subset of albums from the era.

And I suppose seniority leads to positive bias too. Older bands/artists can enjoy a golden status, established by virtue of how long they've been around. A conservative rater will feel that they can more safely dish out a higher rating to an established band and be convinced of its fairness, given that it's already been curated by hordes of others.

Ok, that was far more than I intended to say.

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The RYM rating is rapidly rising. Won't be surprised if it's over 4 soon.
Oh and the star ratings in reviews are now black.
Pretty sure that's a tribute and not the new design.
Apparently Bowie's death led to RYM's highest ever daily traffic.
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Old 01-15-2016, 05:47 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I'm so glad I can prove through notarized screenshots from this thread that I liked Blackstar before it was cool.
Same.

Speaking of which, did anyone else look at the Amazon music charts on January 11-12? Bowie had the top three spots and about fifteen of the top twenty. I'm kinda regretting not taking a screenshot.
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:59 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Listening to Blackstar on my speakers for the first time now. That's one amazingly well produced album.

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Same.

Speaking of which, did anyone else look at the Amazon music charts on January 11-12? Bowie had the top three spots and about fifteen of the top twenty. I'm kinda regretting not taking a screenshot.

Bowie exploded pretty much all possible charts.
Blackstar is expected to become the number one in Germany as well when the charts are announced later today.
Feels surprisingly good to be part of the musical mainstream again after almost 15 years of listening to unpopular stuff.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:17 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I wonder if my local rock station is playing any Bowie. They'd never have touched him in a million years, but considering the tragedy/potential for ratings, there's a fair chance they might replace one of the five Metallica songs an hour with a Bowie track or two.
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