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A very good rock band, I'm surprised by the lack of interest in this forum. Is anyone else a fan, or am I alone?

"Dancing Queen"-ABBA

I agree they're good and I just so love their music.. I'm not a huge fan but I can say that you're not alone! =)

ABBA a rock band? Surely they are the perfect embodiment of a Pop band? I don't have anything by them but I know all their stuff. Well written and produced Pop.

Is it? You learn something new everyday? Thankyou for educating me.

Yeah but your reasoning is wrong. I cannot imagine anyone on these forums stating that Pop is a form of rock. A lot of pop does'nt even use guitars or live drums which are used in rock.

Easy-I don't with the exception of The Beatles maybe. Burt Bacaharchs music touched on light piano jazz at times.

You say ABBA a rock band? Fine. I am calling them a Pop band. So let's agree to disagree.

^^^ I like this guy!

What I will say though is that pop, in some of its meanings, is a style of rock. But pop is broader these days. It now, for example, is most commonly used to refer to urban pop/contemp r&b, which is more descended from hip-hop and soul. It would be silly for example to start calling Rihanna a rock act.

No, I do actually like you and what you are saying. You are my favourite new person on the boards!

lol. C'mon, bro. Dance music's a form of rock, isn't it? :D

What I'm saying is that "pop" today is used as a standalone term to encompass the urban formats. As such, "pop" is not necessarily rock in all of its meanings.

What is Urban music? because in the 60's the Beach Boys music was iindicative of their surroundings, they played surf music that was influenced by their hobbies. This could be classed as Urban music, but then it is not pop.

What is 'pop-soul' and what differentiates this from normal pop music?

Is this an attack or a man looking for information? The Beach Boys aren't urban. To give you a sample, these artists are urban: Babyface, Anita Baker, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton, Mariah Carey, Lauryn Hill, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, New Edition, Prince, Smokey Robinson, Sade, TLC, Stevie Wonder, and Xavier.

Pop-soul is soul music that has been polished and is commercially viable. The vocals are still raw, but the material and sound fit on the radio. Motown was a pioneer of this style. It eventually morphed into disco in the 70's. Some example artists are The Impressions, The Jackson 5, Chuck Jackson, Major Lance, Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, The Temptations, Dionne Warwick, and Stevie Wonder.

Surely R. Kelly is I pee on underage girls pop?

Sade takes influence from Jazz, Soul and Funk. Very similar to Bacharach, although the musical themes are far more pronounced than Bacharach, the same principle was adopted re: 3 minute songs, accessible musical framework and catchy hooks. Christ it's urban NOT pop!Prince is as far removed from urban as can be, although people love to give tenuous links. He takes inspiration from funk and soul which was a by product of the Blues and thus Prince is a Rock musician.

R.Kelly is urban too? what exactly does urban mean? Punk could be classed as Urban if we want to get anal about this schizz.

Didn't you just ask me what urban music is? So who are you to say who is an urban artist and who isn't? Prince is a rock artist. But he plays an urban style. He's also a funk artist, but not a soul artist. People can play styles of certain genres while being a part of a different genre. Look at Frank Zappa. He played fusion, a style of jazz. But no one considers him a jazz musician. He is clearly a rock musician.

Yes, R. Kelly is urban as well. Urban was a term for r&b/soul music of the 1980's and 90's but has continued on in some ways. Urban music isn't as gritty as soul, it's more slick. It has evolved since the 1980's, although there is still adult contemporary music that is urban.

Fusion is not a style of Jazz. Fusion means a joining of two disparate elements.

Who am I to say what is urban? The same person as you-no one.

Urban is a lazy catch all for soul/funk influenced music that is made for a commercial ideal. Therefore, I consider it musically redundant. This all stems from you calling ABBA a rock band and me disagreeing. Why did'nt u put it in the rock section then if they are a Rock band?

I've notice that you prefer the literal meanings of words used in music over the meanings that are represented in music. Fusion is a style of jazz.

Because they're a pop band as well, and pop is narrowed down more than rock, considering it's a style of rock. This all goes back to that thread I was posting in earlier about having multiple forums for different styles of rock.

Fusion is Fusion, no matter how you align it.

The word Fusion is already described by myself and is correct.

Fusion was originally a mixture of jazz improvisation with the power and rhythms of rock. In the mid-70's, it became a combination of jazz, easy-listening pop music, and light r&b.

I personally always saw ABBA as Scandinavian black metal.

the greatest thing about abba is when gibby haynes (from the butthole surfers) drunkely sings 'dancing queen' for johnny depp's P album.

Slint? more like comedic genius.

Mamma Mia the musical was amazing. I love Abba. :thumb:

I think that Abba belongs more in the 'pop' world than the rock part. what is more they are probably the group who gave the rise to the phrase 'bubblegum pop'. Either way, they are a sheer pleasure to listen to, for the music and the lyrics. My fav is 'Mama mia'

Well I love Abba, I do agree that they are pop, embarassing for me as I dont like pop music, but now we have Britney pop and Brooke Hogan pop!!!!, to me abba is just a retro band with great songs. Some of their lyrics are amazing!!!

essence of pop

God, I love them. I'm sure that new movie will help bring their popularity back.

[COLOR="Navy"]They have made much good music and many good songs. I am really happy that you discuss them here. They were a Swedish group and my favourite song with them was Chiquitita! [/COLOR]

I love ABBA, they had incredibly catchy songs. My favourites are "Our Last Summer" (which is one of the most beautiful pop songs ever, in my opinion), "Super Trouper," "Honey Honey" and "Ring Ring."

They're a bit underrated, as far as I can tell, as not hip and a bit light weight, but I think they made a fantastic string of songs that are a blast to listen to.

I think ABBA are great. They had so many hits and all their songs are really memorable. I still find myself singing their songs even if I haven't listened to them for age! :)

I see the early threads, and the controversy over ABBA being a Rock band. I would wholeheartedly say that ABBA was more a Pop group, but a phenomenal one at that. Benny and Bjorn are two of the finest Pop music writers ever to release music. I definitely would say that there are plenty of ABBA fans out there, including Steven Wilson, one of the masters of Neo Prog. Some people may just not be open about their love for Agnetha, Benny, Bjorn and Alfrida. So people, come out of the closet! Wear your ABBA pride on your sleeves!!

I am a huge ABBA fan and have been for years.

Cool thing they did with the Mama Mia! movie. Twas hilarious and amazing.

ABBA rock.

I mean... no, I don't listen to ABBA...

I didn't think people actually liked ABBA.

What is going on around here?:crazy:

They are good, plain, but very catchy pop. They are the embodiment of pop music!

...which I like to dance around in my underwear and sing along to when nobody's watching. Shh.

I went to see Mamma Mia! in theatres and was pleasantly surprised. I liked Dancing Queen; Honey, Honey; and the title song more than a little. And who knew Meryl Streep could sing?

Meryl Streep was actually fantastic in the film. I secretly loved it.

Pardon my ignorance but what catagory of music would you call Abba? mettal, hard edge rock, pop, balads, so slow it will put you to sleep.

Abba is a Swedish pop outfit.

Death metal.

They're only one of the best selling bands in the world, I could see how you might have missed them. And it's not like you could look them up online or anything, amirite?