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Pay attention I already told you this. It was the first 'film' aimed exclusively for MTV. Don't you find it a coincidence that as soon as a music television channel launches Jackson decides to make a film that will get maximum exposure on it? He saw the opportunity to make a killing in the market & went for it. I applaud him for that. Of course this has absolutely no reflection on the quality of the music in it. And when record companies saw the potential in music videos they invested millions trying to recapture the success of that , and they succeeded. You show me one album in the 80s that sold millions without having MTV exposure.

Well done , Just change 'some chick shaking there behind' to 'Some guy dancing with zombies' and you just summed up my opinion of Thriller right there.

And Thriller started this trend

You just said yourself things are worse now

You don't think that whole Thriller film was about marketing?

Mass produced pop is mass produced pop , doesn't matter if it came out in 1983 , 1993 or 2003. Just because you hold nostalgia for the 80s doesn't make it any better. And why shouldn't there be discussion. Just because i'm not blinded by sales figures to see what makes an album good. I would have a lot more praise for Jackson had he stayed true to his R&B roots much more like he did on Off The Wall rather than the throwaway pop he came out with later. But like you say thats just my opinion , obviously people would rather have dancing zombies than soul & passion.

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dirt mcgirt

**** son, you coulda got backstage passez an **** til u turned 13.

mindfuljenn

i only listen to his old school, aka pre-thriller. i don't know what to say about the "man." lol

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Do you not see the contradiction in what you are saying?

One minute you are saying that Jackson was bold & innovative for making an MTV based movie (Which i've never disagreed with) , then you are saying that music isn't as good as it used to be because people are trying to copy it.

And then you are saying that none of this is down to Thriller.

Well yes it is & that is exactly what I am saying , that Thriller started off the worst trend in music ever to happen.

And you have just backed up my opinion on that twice now.

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mjscarousal

When I meant "something" I meant that could be anything. Mostly all the old acts and what they did in general . Alot of artists definitly rip off MJ and his choregraphy alot in the music videos but they do that with other artists to. My point is in this generation of music nobody is orginal and really have foreal talent. You can make one hit record and your the hypest thing in the world, so yea they make crappy videos to attract people in place of a no quality song, yes because their is no real talent there but my thing is what does that have to do with Thriller? I think no doubt people really try to copy MJ and that superstar quality. I just think to say Thriller is the fault in all of this is a scapegoat and its silly. I do agree with u, I do but I don't think its why music videos is the popular thing over the song "now" because even though artists do try to make quailty vids in place of a song, the vid still doesn't get the maxium exposure no where near Thriller did don't care how many times the vid goes to number one. Thriller and all MJ videos were broadcast on all music channels, not just BET or MTV like these artists out now and anyway the songs sometimes get the most exposure over the video.

If you play a crappy song 50 million times in a row for some people it exactly begins to grow on them but this is done purposely. Which leads me to my next point all the songs are played out. Some songs come out before the vid and vice versa thats why I think the Thriller trend things ur saying is stupid. Once again I think every artist would like to capture the esssence of Thriller but why people put more into their crappy videos then exactly sitting down and writing quality songs is just the product of how bad the music industry have fallen due to masses etc because its not just the video thing that attracts audiences away from real talent, there is alot more such as image, hype, how you look all of that comes in play. Artists nowadays don't nearly put alot of money into their video even though it may look like it. MJ spent millions out his own pocket on his videos, most artists don't do that now. Name some artists out now that will spend 7 million on just one video? So once again I agree yea during that era it was an influence but now I think it influences artists, dance and music of course but not the make flashy vid in place of a song.

glm

JUST BEAT IT!
BEAT IT!

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harvey96

I don't really care about his personal life. If it is a good a song, I will support even though I'm not his fan

dramababe

Every once and a while I'll pop in one of Micheal Jacksons albums and listen to it. His music will always be good!! They are also great performance pieces, I would love to choreograph a dance to one of his songs

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jackhammer

I am still proud of the fact that I own not one Michael Jackson track. This coming from a guy who owns Alexander O Neals Greatest Hits!

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Someone gave my sister an Alexander O Neil single for xmas one year , she'd never even heard the song.

It even had the 'reduced to 15p' price label still stuck to it

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