The Beatles vs The Beach Boys

Davey Moore · 07-06-2010, 05:06 PM

This isn't even a close comparison. In every category, from the quality of songwriting to influence on their time period, The Beatles are champs. In my mind the only people to rival them in terms of quality from that time period were Dylan and The Stones. Though I think Dylan tops them all, but that's just me.

07-07-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass

Yes..I see..

Do you mean that I shouldnt worry about the small things?
^or..should I feel like 'a small fish on a BIG fukking hook'.

idk -it's your life; the choice is yours.

Nice way to avoid the question I asked you, though.

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Originally Posted by Davey Moore

This isn't even a close comparison. In every category, from the quality of songwriting to influence on their time period, The Beatles are champs. In my mind the only people to rival them in terms of quality from that time period were Dylan and The Stones. Though I think Dylan tops them all, but that's just me.

finally, a sane voice of reason.

Necromancer · 07-07-2010, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

idk -it's your life; the choice is yours.

Nice way to avoid the question I asked you, though.

I prefer to listen to the Beach Boys music more often than I listen to the Beatles, just a personal preferance.

staurtjohn321 · 07-09-2010, 05:52 AM

Dude Seriously, is there a comparison?

**Janszoon** · 07-20-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

that's quite the opposite for me; I'll listen to Pet Sounds and Smiley-Smile, and that's about all of that lightweight, pretentious, overblown, pasty California dreck that I can stomach.

Saccharine only tastes sweet at first.

There's just no MEAT in much of what the BBs did.

Whereas a song like Yer Blues is HEAVY.

I'm fascinated by the use of the word "pretentious" in reference to the Beach Boys since they're about the furthest thing from pretentious I can think of, unlike the Beatles.

And "Yer Blues"? Seriously? That song is awful.

07-20-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm fascinated by the use of the word "pretentious" in reference to the Beach Boys since they're about the furthest thing from pretentious I can think of, unlike the Beatles.

really?

Brian Wilson conitnuoisly writing songs about the surfer life when he had never surfed a day in his life isn't pretentious?

It just seems like the only true worth they ever had was from '66-'69. Nothing the did, either before/after or as group/solo has any real resonance to me.

It's like they churned out product - ESPECIALLY in the 70's. Like, have you ever listened to L.A?

Absolutely terrible.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

And "Yer Blues"? Seriously? That song is awful.

I guess you've never been there before.

Good for you.

Some of us don't have a "happy-go-lucky, Mr. California in his Little Deuce Coupe, cruising the strip with his Little Surfer Girl named Babara Ann who he hops to get In His Room so he can show her his Good Vibrations before he has to Get Around to hitting the Surf's Up tomorrow" kind of life.

And if you think it's a "terrible" song, then have obviously never heard the version from Rock and Roll Circus, with John on guitar and vocals, Clapton on lead guitar, Keith Richards on bass, and Mitch Mitchell on drums.

But you probably don't like any of those guys, either.

See...the worst crime in music, to me, is making it boring, safe and predictable.

If music makes me feel NOTHING, it's worse than revolting. It's bland, trite, teenybopper bull****.

The Beach Boys, on the average, were boring, safe, and predictable.

The Beatles, at their WORST, were interesting, unpredictable, and capable of anything.

Not to mention that all 4 Beatles were badassed at their instruments, whereas the Beach Boys couldn't even really play - all their record's are filled with studio cats like Hal Blaine on drums - all their concerts had touring musicians covering their parts live.

I can't believe it's even a question.

The Beach Boys were a pop band - churning out light, safe, predictable teenybopper trite.

The Beatles were musicians who expanded the art of the Musical landscape, changing "rock n' roll" into Rock Music.

Duh.

**Janszoon** · 07-20-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

really?

Brian Wilson conitnuoisly writing songs about the surfer life when he had never surfed a day in his life isn't pretentious?

So you have to surf to write songs about surfing? Odd. Are you also upset that the Beatles never lived in a yellow submarine?

I would say that the fact that the Beach Boys were unabashed pop musicians makes them, if nothing else, unpretentious.

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Originally Posted by telepicker

It just seems like the only true worth they ever had was from '66-'69. Nothing the did, either before/after or as group/solo has any real resonance to me.

I love their early stuff as well as the era you're talking about but I do agree that they started sucking later on.

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Originally Posted by telepicker

I guess you've never been there before.

Good for you.

Some of us don't have a "happy-go-lucky, Mr. California in his Little Deuce Coupe, cruising the strip with his Little Surfer Girl named Babara Ann who he hops to get In His Room so he can show her his Good Vibrations before he has to Get Around to hitting the Surf's Up tomorrow" kind of life.

Yes, I only like cheery pop music, that's why I'm such a big Swans fan.

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Originally Posted by telepicker

And if you think it's a "terrible" song, then have obviously never heard the version from Rock and Roll Circus, with John on guitar and vocals, Clapton on lead guitar, Keith Richards on bass, and Mitch Mitchell on drums.

But you probably don't like any of those guys, either.

You're right, I've never heard it. I like Richards and Mitchell, don't like Lennon and Clapton, so I guess there is about a 50/50 chance of me liking that version.

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Originally Posted by telepicker

See...the worst crime in music, to me, is making it boring, safe and predictable.

If music makes me feel NOTHING, it's worse than revolting. It's bland, trite, teenybopper bull****.

The Beach Boys, on the average, were boring, safe, and predictable.

The Beatles, at their WORST, were interesting, unpredictable, and capable of anything.

Not to mention that all 4 Beatles were badassed at their instruments, whereas the Beach Boys couldn't even really play - all their record's are filled with studio cats like Hal Blaine on drums - all their concerts had touring musicians covering their parts live.

I can't believe it's even a question.

The Beach Boys were a pop band - churning out light, safe, predictable teenybopper trite.

The Beatles were musicians who expanded the art of the Musical landscape, changing "rock n' roll" into Rock Music.

Duh.

The Beatles were a pop band - churning out light, safe, predictable teenybopper tripe that had pretenses of being edgy. Duh.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-21-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

Brian Wilson conitnuoisly writing songs about the surfer life when he had never surfed a day in his life isn't pretentious?

Nick Cave has written loads of songs about murderers.
Should he start going around massacring people to come across as less pretentious ?

TheCunningStunt · 07-21-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Nick Cave has written loads of songs about murderers.
Should he start going around massacring people to come across as less pretentious ?

It'd be nice. Commitment

07-21-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Nick Cave has written loads of songs about murderers.
Should he start going around massacring people to come across as less pretentious ?

Yes, please.

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