The Beatles vs The Beach Boys

Surell · 01-07-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Brian Wilson was the best Beach Boy. It even sounds lame. "Beach Boy", haha.

They didn't choose that name, the label did.

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But John, Paul and George were all better songwriters who had a more consistent output.

Please; the Beatles' best songs aren't nearly as well written as the non hits on Pet Sounds. John and Paul were average and overrated, George and Paul i can't comment on, but George seems like the Brian Wilson of the Beatles- kept in the dark songwriting wise. I wanna hear some more of him.

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John and Paul are widely considered some of the best songwriters of the past century

So? What mainstream media dictates as "best" isn't always so; Rolling Stone, for example, put Imagine ahead of Marvin Gaye's What's Going On (the songs), when What's Going On is the much better song, in lyrics and composition.

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You can't say the same for all the Beach Boys, not even Wilson; he just wasn't as consistent as the Beatles.

Wilson didn't get the opportunity to continue songwriting; truth is, he only got Pet Sounds to give the Beatles competition, and then he broke down in the middle of SMiLE due to pressure. Had SMiLE come out back then and he gotten some glory for it, there's no telling how the Beach Boys would have turned out. But he faded back into the songwriting background after Sgt. Peppers was released, giving the Beatles the edge.

blastingas10 · 01-08-2012, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell

They didn't choose that name, the label did.

Please; the Beatles' best songs aren't nearly as well written as the non hits on Pet Sounds. John and Paul were average and overrated, George and Paul i can't comment on, but George seems like the Brian Wilson of the Beatles- kept in the dark songwriting wise. I wanna hear some more of him.

So? What mainstream media dictates as "best" isn't always so; Rolling Stone, for example, put Imagine ahead of Marvin Gaye's What's Going On (the songs), when What's Going On is the much better song, in lyrics and composition.

Wilson didn't get the opportunity to continue songwriting; truth is, he only got Pet Sounds to give the Beatles competition, and then he broke down in the middle of SMiLE due to pressure. Had SMiLE come out back then and he gotten some glory for it, there's no telling how the Beach Boys would have turned out. But he faded back into the songwriting background after Sgt. Peppers was released, giving the Beatles the edge.

I disagree. I might not think that any of the Beatles were the greatest songwriters, but they were really good. The Beatles started as unknowns, they got where they were because they were good. I'll give credit where credit is due, so i'll give the Beach Boys some credit but I'll never think they are better than the Beatles.

To each his own.

starrynight · 01-08-2012, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

I disagree. I might not think that any of the Beatles were the greatest songwriters, but they were really good. The Beatles started as unknowns, they got where they were because they were good. I'll give credit where credit is due, so i'll give the Beach Boys some credit but I'll never think they are better than the Beatles.

To each his own.

Both The Beatles and The Beach Boys started as unknowns I guess, though I feel there was more musical talent in The Beatles. But as I said earlier I don't think the debate matters much because they could both be very good. Now if it was comparing an average really overrated group to one of them I would be more up for comparing the merits of those involved.