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VEGANGELICA 04-15-2011 08:59 AM

Favourite anti-love song?
 
What are your favourite anti-love songs? If you're feeling generous, please also explain why you like them...but I understand that if you're here in this thread, you might not be in the mood. :/

I've noticed that the "favourite love song" thread about love ballads has begun to include quite a few negative songs about love, so I felt it was high time to give anti-love songs their own thread as I thought of doing long ago: http://www.musicbanter.com/pop/27983...tml#post861141

Here are two of my favourite anti-love songs:

Feist - "Let It Die"
A pretty song and I love the line, "We don't see eye to eye or hear ear to ear."



Katy Perry - "I'm Still Breathing"
I like the nice somber mood and the extended metaphor...a conceit, even (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceit)...to represent the death/suicide of a relationship:


starsamokeen 04-16-2011 01:25 AM

HOw about "She Hates Me" by Puddle of Mud

djchameleon 04-16-2011 04:16 AM



This isn't really one of my favorites but it instantly came to mind when I saw the thread title.



This is my mother's favorite song. My parents got separated but they never divorced.

She would just bring into song and sing this so loudly.



Now to my list of favorites. I love this song because it's pretty uplifting and positive as far as trying to finally let go of a woman that is no good for you when you are the good guy in the relationship. Which has happened to me in the past. I have had two exes of mines cheat on me three times meaning that one girl did it twice! I took her back and tried to forgive her but the trust was completely gone and she went and cheated on me again! that was the last straw.



This was a song I dedicated to one of my exes after our break up.

I actually have a song related to each ex that I have ever had to help me get over the hurt from the relationship.



This is another dedicated song to an ex of mines.
The relationship was a very weird one and I felt like she was using me to use her quite literally. It's hard to explain the details of that but this song does a good job summing it up.

chipper 04-18-2011 10:02 AM

Hands down - No Woman No Cry

because the title explains it all. things will be alright if we get rid of the source of the heartache, unfortunately, it is not that easy.

women can make a man weak with a simple smile. how do they do that?

Mrd00d 04-18-2011 10:31 AM

Abnormal by Bumblefoot

Pleading the "It's not you, it's me" argument.
Plus, he's insane.



Sweet, slower acoustic version.

jackhammer 04-19-2011 04:58 PM

Great live version of this. I just love the irony of the song. Mellow and mainstream musically but completely anti mainstream with it's lyrics and a band that is definitely not here to gain popularity points with commercial audiences. Still one of the U.K's best bands that no one has barely heard of over here :(


Herocon 04-19-2011 05:50 PM

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?...e_gdata_player

Zaqarbal 04-19-2011 08:19 PM

Chris Isaak: Wicked Game.



♫ "No, I don't wanna fall in love.
(This love is only gonna break your heart)
No, I don't wanna fall in love.
(This love is only gonna break your heart)
With you...
With you...
" ♪

However, at the same time, the dreamy music invites you to fall in love. It's a wicked song. Perhaps that's why I love it.

Quote:

"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself."

Oscar Wilde: The Picture of Dorian Gray.

Neapolitan 04-19-2011 10:43 PM

I was thinking of doing a thread just like this. Some of my favorite love songs are not about being in love, but about love gone wrong or like you say "anti-love" and I such a hard time thinking of a positive love song for "favourite love song" thread.

During the 60's I can't think of a group who wrote better negative love songs than the Rolling Stones, while The Beatles songs were about holding hands and the feeling of walking on cloud 9, the Stones had a darker side, they were more cynical and realistic. "Backstreet Girl" is one of my favorite if not my favorite Rolling Stones song, I think the music is amazing, it has such a folksy (European) sound, and the lyrics are a complete downer. I would love to go into detail what I think the song is about, (like does he love her or is he being mean to her) but I don't know if I should go into detail, because really it could mean something different to someone else. When people listen to a song, everyone has their own interpretation of the song.


Liljagare 04-20-2011 03:29 AM

Gloria Gaynor's "I will Survive" comes to mind. I just like the power in her voice when she is singing. Another one would be "Love Stinks" by the J. Geils Band. I liked the Adam Sandler version as well , if not for the giggles.

You love her
but she loves him
And he loves somebody else
you just can't win
And so it goes
till the day you die
This thing they call love
it's gonna make you cry


There was also a song called "Everything about you" by Ugly Kid Joe (perhaps I am one of the few that remember the tune for those who have blissfully forgot it) that probably would fit well here..


Howard the Duck 04-20-2011 03:54 AM



i mean that's just a screwy situation innit? falling in love with a hooker?

djchameleon 04-20-2011 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1038845)


i mean that's just a screwy situation innit? falling in love with a hooker?

nothing wrong with falling in love with a hooker but don't expect to turn her from a hooker to a housewife is all.

Howard the Duck 04-20-2011 05:25 AM

how about this then? my fave stalker song:-


djchameleon 04-20-2011 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1038873)
how about this then? my fave stalker song:-




This is my favorite "watching" song....could be a bit stalker-ish

Zaqarbal 04-20-2011 10:36 AM

Nena Daconte: Idiota ("Idiot", 2006).



♫ "Ya está ahí la Luna. ................................ Here comes the Moon.
¡Qué perra la vida y esta soledad! ................................ What bitches life and this loneliness are!
No quisiera perderme tu tren ................................ I wouldn't like to lose your train
y saber lo que es malgastarte. ................................ and find out what to waste your company is.

Podría coger cualquier autobús ................................ I could catch any bus

con tal de un beso más ................................ only to get one more kiss
pero tengo pesado el hogar ................................ but I'm bored of home
y ya no puedo hacerlo igual. ................................ and I can't do it the way it was.

Puede que mañana me quiera ir. ................................ Maybe tomorrow I'll want to leave.
Y puede también que mañana ................................ Or maybe tomorrow
sea la vida y que mañana ................................ is life and tomorrow...
no exista mañana. ................................ there may be no tomorrow.

No soy una niña. ................................ I'm not a little girl.

No soy ese duende. ................................ I'm not that elf.
No soy luchadora. ................................ I'm not a fighter.
No soy tu camino. ................................ I'm not your route.
No soy buena amante ................................ I'm not a good lover
ni soy buena esposa. ................................ nor a good wife.
No soy una flor ................................ I'm not a flower
ni un trozo de pan. ................................ and I don't have a heart of gold.
Sólo soy ................................ I am just
esa cara de idiota. ................................ that idiot face.
Idiota. ................................ Idiot.

Idiota por tener que recordar ................................ Idiot for having to remember

la última vez que te pedí tu amor. ................................ the last time I asked you for your love.
Idiota por colgar tus besos ................................ Idiot for hanging your kisses
con un marco rojo ................................ with a red frame
por si ya no vuelvo a verlos más. ................................ in case I don't get more of them.
Idiota por perderme ................................ Idiot because I went to rack and ruin
por si acaso te marchabas ya, ................................ assuming you were about to leave me,
y tirar tu confianza desde mi cama ................................ and because I threw away your trust from my bed
hasta esa ventana. ................................ to that window.

¿No ves qué fácil ha sido para mí ................................ Can't you see how easily

perderlo todo en un momento? ................................ I've lost everything in just a moment?
Por mi miedo a perder. ................................ Because of my fear of losing.
Por mi miedo a perder. ................................ Because of my fear of losing.
Por mi miedo a no controlar tu vuelo. ................................ Because of my fear of not checking up on you.

No soy una niña. ................................ I'm not a little girl.

No soy ese duende. …………………… I'm not that elf.
No soy luchadora. …………………… I'm not a fighter.
No soy tu camino. …………………… I'm not your route.
No soy buena amante …………………… I'm not a good lover
ni soy buena esposa. …………………… nor a good wife.
No soy una flor …………………… I'm not a flower
ni un trozo de pan. …………………… and I don't have a heart of gold.
Sólo soy …………………… I am just
esa cara de idiota. …………………… that idiot face.
Idiota. …………………… Idiot.
Esa cara de idiota. …………………… That idiot face.

¿No ves qué fácil ha sido para mí …………………… Can't you see how easily

perderlo todo en un momento? …………………… I've lost everything in just a moment?
" ♪

Liljagare 04-20-2011 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1038845)

i mean that's just a screwy situation innit? falling in love with a hooker?

No worse than falling in love with a vampire. That would just plain suck..or bite..or any other corny vampire analogy you can put in.


Neapolitan 04-20-2011 10:35 PM

Positively Fourth Street performed live by The Byrds



Having lyrics by Bob Dylan and music by The Byrds with lead guitar by Clarence White, makes this easliy one of my favorite songs. There are other artist who covered this song, but this imo is probably the best cover of this song. Sometimes when I can't sleep at night, I put headphones on and just have this song on repeat and listen to it over and over, I love Clarence White playing and it's a true gem of a song. He came up with the idea of the B-bender and does all kind of trick with it while playing lead, he is influential to a lot of guitarist, even Jimi Hendrix was fan of his (White's) playing. He was hit by a drunk driver when he was only 29, and thinking about how talented he was and the family and friends he left behind - what a tragic lost. I hang on every note he plays throughout the song. Dylan's lyrics are pretty straightforward and angry, it's less cryptic than other songs he wrote (it's as if he took the words from an actual argument and put it in a song).

Howard the Duck 04-20-2011 10:43 PM



this one should be in the "funny youtube" thread but wtf?

anti-love as in "i love cookies only"

haah ahaha haha ah ah ah ahahhahaha haha haha

Zaqarbal 04-21-2011 05:26 AM

Dead Can Dance: The Ubiquitous Mr Lovegrove.



♫ "(...)

I love slow... slow but deep.
Feigned affections wash over me.


(...)

You build me up then you knock me down.
You play the fool while I play the clown.
We keep time to the beat of an old slave drum.
You raise my hopes then you raise the odds
You tell me that I dream too much
Now I'm serving time in disillusionment
.

I don't believe you anymore ... I don't believe you.


I thought that I knew it all
I'd seen all the signs before.
I thought that you were the one
In darkness my heart was won
.

(...)

Never let it be said I was untrue
I never found a home inside of you.
Never let it be said I was untrue
I gave you all my time.
" ♪


holly984 04-27-2011 05:27 AM



*sigh* The lyrics ring so true:

excerpt-

Yes indeed I'm alone again
and here comes emptiness crashing in
it's either love or hate
I can't find in between

...it wouldn't have worked out any way
so now it's just another lonely day

...wish there was something
I could say or do
I can resist anything
but temptation from you
but I'd rather walk alone
than chase you around
I'd rather fall myself
than let you drag me down

...yesterday seems like a life ago
cause the one I love
today I hardly know
you I held so close in my heart oh dear
grow further from me
with every fallen tear




Howard the Duck 04-27-2011 05:55 AM



S&M, who doesn't love it?

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 04-27-2011 02:55 PM



and the very commercial guilty pleasure:


VEGANGELICA 04-27-2011 04:13 PM

Great anti-love songs, everybody!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1038762)
I was thinking of doing a thread just like this. Some of my favorite love songs are not about being in love, but about love gone wrong or like you say "anti-love" and I such a hard time thinking of a positive love song for "favourite love song" thread.

During the 60's I can't think of a group who wrote better negative love songs than the Rolling Stones, while The Beatles songs were about holding hands and the feeling of walking on cloud 9, the Stones had a darker side, they were more cynical and realistic. "Backstreet Girl" is one of my favorite if not my favorite Rolling Stones song, I think the music is amazing, it has such a folksy (European) sound, and the lyrics are a complete downer. I would love to go into detail what I think the song is about, (like does he love her or is he being mean to her) but I don't know if I should go into detail, because really it could mean something different to someone else. When people listen to a song, everyone has their own interpretation of the song.


I love the song "Backstreet Girl," too. I can't believe I forgot about it while making the "anti-love" thread, since I like the song so much. A real "downer," like you say, and I have you to thank for learning about it, Neapolitan. I'm glad you're enjoying the anti-love song thread.

I was thinking today of an anti-love song I used to listen to frequently in college, but there is no YouTube video for it, unfortunately:

Sheila E. - "Next time wipe the lipstick off your collar."

It's a sad, pathetic song in which the woman is in a disturbingly obsequious, needy relationship with her partner who is having sex with someone else. For some sad reason...low self-esteem?...this woman is accepting his philandering and the scraps he throws her. Maybe this song would be like one that would be sung by the wife of the male character singing in "Backstreet Girl." I wish I could find it on YouTube! Here are the depressing lyrics:

Quote:

Sheila E. - "Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar"

You don't have to send me flowers like you used to do.
You don't have to buy me candy, I'll still be your fool.
All I ask is for a little decency and class.
Next time wipe the lipstick off your collar.

You don't have to take me dancing, our backyard will do.
We don't have to eat too fancy, hamburgers are cool.
I don't care if you stay out until the break of dawn.
Next time wipe the lipstick off your collar.

Can't you understand, I want a true love man?
Can't you comprehend, I want a lover, not a friend?

I don't care for sugar-coated flattery, French kiss will suffice.
Blame our sex on your run-down battery, holding you is nice.
I know when you're lying, baby, there's no need to scream.
There's no need to shout.
Next time wipe the lipstick off your collar.

If you weren't so tired, baby, we'd be on the floor.
We'd be making love right now, ooh.
Next time wipe the lipstick off your collar.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/next-time...-sheila-e.html
Gosh, this song depresses me. :(

But after depressing me, a great anti-love song then, conversely, lifts my spirits, because I think to myself, "Phew! At least my life isn't THAT bad. I may have my problems, but they could be worse!" :)

Howard the Duck 04-27-2011 11:30 PM

oh BTW, thx for using my quote as a sig, Angel

ThePhanastasio 04-28-2011 12:04 AM

The Mountain Goats - No Children


I hope it stays dark forever.
I hope the worst isn't over,
And I hope you blink before I do.
I hope I never get sober.

And I hope when you think of me years down the line,
You can't find one good thing to say.
And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out,
You'd stay the hell out of my way.

I am drowning; there is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me,
Hand in unloveable hand
And I hope you die.
I hope we both die.


The Grateful Dead - Hell In A Bucket


You analyze me, pretend to despise me,
You laugh when I stumble and fall.
There may come a day I will dance on your grave
If unable to dance, I will crawl across it
Unable to dance, I'll still crawl.


Ani DiFranco - Untouchable Face


So **** you and your untouchable face
And **** you for existing in the first place.
And who am I that I should be vying for your touch.
Said, who am I?
I bet you can't even tell me that much.

VEGANGELICA 04-28-2011 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1044185)
The Mountain Goats - No Children


I hope it stays dark forever.
I hope the worst isn't over,
And I hope you blink before I do.
I hope I never get sober.

And I hope when you think of me years down the line,
You can't find one good thing to say.
And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out,
You'd stay the hell out of my way.

I am drowning; there is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me,
Hand in unloveable hand
And I hope you die.
I hope we both die.

Ha! That song is hilarious, Phanastasio. I chuckled all the way through it. I think that is the quintessential "anti-love" song by which all anti-love songs could be measured. People will be hard-pressed to come up with a more anti-lovey song than THAT one.

I especially like the lines about how the man hopes he'll cut himself shaving and bleed forever. Exaggeration is such a good humor technique.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1044185)
[The Grateful Dead - Hell In A Bucket


You analyze me, pretend to despise me,
You laugh when I stumble and fall.
There may come a day I will dance on your grave
If unable to dance, I will crawl across it
Unable to dance, I'll still crawl
.

Ha ha ha! I love those last 3 lines. The image of someone determined enough to dance gleefully on another person's grave such that he'll crawl across it if unable to dance...funny. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1044166)
oh BTW, thx for using my quote as a sig, Angel

Ur welcome, Non-squatter.

Ilistentomusic 05-08-2011 03:34 PM

I am real surprised no one has said this one yet:



I love this song, it's so true:

You love her
but she loves him
And he loves somebody else
you just can't win
And so it goes
till the day you die
This thing they call love
it's gonna make you cry

Howard the Duck 05-08-2011 08:22 PM


VEGANGELICA 05-11-2011 09:43 AM

Paula Cole - "Where have all the cowboys gone"

One of the more depessing songs about not being loved. :(

I include this song in the "anti-love song" thread because the man in the song is feeling the opposite of love: indifference.

I remember when this played often on the radio I'd always stop (work) and listen carefully to the lyrics. The lines that especially got to me, because how she sings them convey to me her hurt and then some anger, are these: "You made friends at the farm. You join 'em at the bar almost every single day of the week. I will wash the dishes while you go have a beeeeer."


Janszoon 05-11-2011 07:21 PM

My favorite anti-love song is probably "Baby Bitch" by Ween, which is a complete and utter telling off of an ex. It's just so damn bitter and yet so sweetly sung:


TheBig3 05-12-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1051904)
Paula Cole - "Where have all the cowboys gone"

One of the more depessing songs about not being loved. :(

I include this song in the "anti-love song" thread because the man in the song is feeling the opposite of love: indifference.

I remember when this played often on the radio I'd always stop (work) and listen carefully to the lyrics. The lines that especially got to me, because how she sings them convey to me her hurt and then some anger, are these: "You made friends at the farm. You join 'em at the bar almost every single day of the week. I will wash the dishes while you go have a beeeeer."


I loved this song when it was out. I became a massive radiohead when I was 12/13 and this was really blowing up then. It came out at the same time as (or around the same time as) Poe's Angry Johnny which was also incredible.

I've never really cared for the Lillith Fair variety, but you can see why it emerged. Strong showing from the ladies in the late 90's.

VEGANGELICA 05-17-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skaltezon (Post 1052158)
.
'Love Hurts' by Roy Orbison would be perfect for this thread.

But it's a wimpy song, so here's the Stones instead.

The Last Time - The Rolling Stones

"The Last Time"--a great depressing addition. I also agree that "Love Hurts" *is* perfect for this thread. Here, I tried to find a cover that is a little less wimpy than Roy Orbison's, followed by the Everly Brothers' original:

Joan Jett - "Love Hurts" (Cover)



Everly Brothers - "Love Hurts" ... written and composed by Felice and Boudleaux Bryant; recorded by The Everly Brothers in 1960



Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1052166)
My favorite anti-love song is probably "Baby Bitch" by Ween, which is a complete and utter telling off of an ex. It's just so damn bitter and yet so sweetly sung: ...

Heh..."Baby Bitch" is a good anti-love song, especially since it sounds so sweet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1052472)
I loved this song when it was out. I became a massive radiohead when I was 12/13 and this was really blowing up then. It came out at the same time as (or around the same time as) Poe's Angry Johnny which was also incredible.

I've never really cared for the Lillith Fair variety, but you can see why it emerged. Strong showing from the ladies in the late 90's.

I'd never heard Poe's "Angry Johnny" and think it counts as an anti-love song, since the lyrics are all about wanting to kill this Johnny person. Not much love there!

Poe - "Angry Johnny"


TheBig3 05-17-2011 04:31 PM

yeah but the rock version is a ****ty after thought. You want the trip-hop version

skaltezon 05-17-2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1054916)
"The Last Time"--a great depressing addition. I also agree that "Love Hurts" *is* perfect for this thread. Here, I tried to find a cover that is a little less wimpy than Roy Orbison's, followed by the Everly Brothers' original:

Joan Jett - "Love Hurts" (Cover)

Everly Brothers - "Love Hurts" ... written and composed by Felice and Boudleaux Bryant; recorded by The Everly Brothers in 1960

Nope, still wimpy. Well, Joan Jett is more bland than wimpy. But *here's* a version I do like:

Love Hurts - Nazareth


Howard the Duck 05-17-2011 11:46 PM


holly984 06-01-2011 03:23 AM


SATCHMO 06-01-2011 03:29 AM


Zaqarbal 06-05-2011 04:00 PM

Mikel Erentxun: Love Letters (When There's no Love).


"Hoy te escribo esta carta ................................ Today I write this letter to you
porque siempre te quejabas ................................ because you always complained
de que nunca te enviaba ................................ that I never sent you
cartas de amor. ................................ love letters.
Decías que era frío, ................................ You said that I was cold,
que era todo indiferente, ................................ that I was completely indifferent,
y buscaste un continente ................................ so you sought out a continent
para entregar tu calor. ................................ where to give your warmth away.

Tal vez tu O.N.G. ................................ Maybe your N.G.O.
se pueda ocupar ................................ could see
de resucitar ................................ to resurrect
a hombres que ................................ men who
siguen vivos. ................................ are still alive.

Las cartas que no envías ................................ The letters you don't send
sólo son cartas marcadas: ................................ are nothing but marked cards:
te regalan una mano ................................ you get a hand
pero nunca un corazón. ................................ but never a heart.

Mi casa está pidiendo ................................ My home is crying out
una mano de pintura ................................ for a coat of paint
y algún punto de sutura ................................ and some stitch
y hacer punto final. ................................ and a full stop.
Y si estás en un país ................................ And if you are in a country
del África Central, ................................ in Central Africa,
busca pronto un hechicero ................................ look soon for a sorcerer
que me enseñe a olvidar. ................................ who teaches me to forget.

Cartas de amor ................................ Love letters
cuando ya no hay amor. ................................ when there's no love anymore.
Cartas de amor, ................................ Love letters,
pero sin dirección. ................................ but without an address.

Mi hospital de campaña, ................................ My field hospital,
mi amuleto de la suerte, ................................ my good luck charm,
una firme barricada, ................................ a firm barricade,
lo eras todo para mí. ................................ you were everything to me.
Pero hay cosas en la vida ................................ But there are things in life
que son mucho más reales ................................ that are much more real
que los ojos que las miran. ................................ than the eyes looking at them.

Dime que fuí para ti. ................................ Tell me what I was to you.
Dime que fuí para ti. ................................ Tell me what I was to you.
Dime si en algún momento ................................ Tell me if you ever
me llegaste a querer. ................................ loved me.

Cartas de amor ................................ Love letters
cuando ya no hay amor. ................................ when there's no love anymore.
Cartas de amor, ................................ Love letters,
pero sin dirección. ................................ but without an address.
"


Necromancer 06-11-2011 11:13 AM

The first song that comes to mind is, The J. Geils Band - Love Stinks. Its been so overplayed through the years I don't really care to hear it again.

I can bear Careless Whisper by George Michael though.

"To the heart and mind, ignorance is kind"

djchameleon 06-12-2011 12:29 AM



lol this song is associated to an ex of mines

You must be out of your mind!
This was a simple design!
You **** it up everytime
How could you leave me behind


It's alright, it's alright
'cause I know what you want
but you'll just have to wait
If I had it to give
I would give it away
I'm living it up
while I'm falling from grace
There's no way, there's no way that I'm running away

I'm used to making it worse
Made up of four letter words
You wanna know what it was
Now isolated and gone
You fall apart at the seams
I'll never know what it means
Try not to pull it apart
You're aiming straight from the heart


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