Madonna VS Lady GaGa

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-23-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyVegn

What It Feels Like for a Girl and Don't Tell Me are cool too...
I think both of these artists do publicity stunts that appeal to a target market. LBTQ who feel largely misunderstood suddenly feel understood by one of the biggest names in the world; Madonna. There is some quick cash...
Both are equally terrible role models for girls but who says they must be role models? That's not what they are supposed to be about.

Oh I totally agree since Madonna also can be problematic

But should I not care about Lady Gaga's ****ery since I'm not a girl?

I don't see either as role models quite but Lady Gaga is usually the one purporting herself to care so much about the gay community:

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“They say that this country is free, and they say that this country is equal, but it is not equal if it’s ‘sometimes’...We need change now. We demand actions now.”

Sorry, equality is a great idea but she's asking for assimilation, that is not equality. I am not going to change my identity for other people, to make them feel comfortable about my queerness. That's not my problem and my queerness hurts no one.

But we as human beings are free to choose our own role models, but I think that if you are just treating them as untouchable saints rather than human beings who are incapable of problematic words, actions, and behaviours then you are probably morally bankrupt or just pathetic, cowardly, and desperate for your own identity that you attach yourself to people you KNOW to be wrong.

djchameleon · 06-23-2013, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

No, you can't really pick and choose who you advocate for, at all, especially when trans* visibility is at an all time low. There are other parts of LGBTQ+ and she should be helping the more **** upon part of it. I mean seriously do you have any idea how often trans* people are murdered or raped or left homeless, bullied in school? Wouldn't you say that's a more pressing issue rather than just marriage? This is actual lives at stake here. You can't pick and choose the easier route if you want to say you're doing so much for the community,which she does, often and loudly.

Honestly I don't care if you disagree with me but Murder statistics of transgender people

Look for yourself. If 1 in 6 women will be raped or sexually assaulted in their lifetimes, how many of those will be trans women? It's a big ****ing deal. Opinions are fine, ya know, but this is a fact here so I have to stick by my opinion

I'm not trying to belittle how important of an issue the murder rate amongst trans are. I just don't think it's fine to tell someone else what issues they should choose to advocate and shine a light on. It would be very helpful if she did choose to bring this issue up more often though since she has such a large platform/audience.

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Originally Posted by CrazyVegn

Both are equally terrible role models for girls but who says they must be role models? That's not what they are supposed to be about.

They didn't sign up to be role models but that doesn't mean that their fanbase won't look up to them because they will no matter if it was their intention or not.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-23-2013, 12:46 PM

Oh I get what you're saying, just I don't think she should be talking on them at all if she is unwilling to really help us, is all. She can do whatever she wants.

Justthefacts · 06-23-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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I don't think you understand who you're about to piss off.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-23-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove

I don't think you understand who you're about to piss off.

Did they quote me? Lmao. Whoever that was pmed me with just that...I woke up and I'm like ????

Justthefacts · 06-23-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

Did they quote me? Lmao. Whoever that was pmed me with just that...I woke up and I'm like ????

Yeah he quoted you. I friend requested him cause his usernames pretty awesome, but he looks like he's just trolling around. We must destroy him.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-23-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove

Yeah he quoted you. I friend requested him cause his usernames pretty awesome, but he looks like he's just trolling around. We must destroy him.

He's already banned. Probably the same person as Librarian because they sent me a PM saying this:

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I love you
Dear Hermione,
I need to tell you something that I've wanted to tell you since we went to school together. You never noticed me much but I always watched you, not in a creepy way though. I used to love watching you through the window when gym was outside – your ass looked so good in gym shorts. Sometimes when you bent over I would catch a glimpse of your boob.

Anyways Dayna I really love you and haven’t had the balls to tell you until I started doing cocaine – It's expensive but it makes me feel more like myself and I finally have the guts to tell you .

??????

Justthefacts · 06-23-2013, 03:41 PM

That's beyond creepiness. Is your name Dayna? Or did he just say some random name?

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-23-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove

That's beyond creepiness. Is your name Dayna? Or did he just say some random name?

My name is Hermione, but I was born with the name Dayna, but no one calls me that anymore, except my mother. Everyone calls me Herm, Hermy, etc

Justthefacts · 06-23-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

My name is Hermione, but I was born with the name Dayna, but no one calls me that anymore, except my mother. Everyone calls me Herm, Hermy, etc

Holy shit, then that guy actually knows you. Now I'm scared for you.

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~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	Oh I get what you're saying, just I don't think she should be talking on them at all if she is unwilling to really help us, is all. She can do whatever she wants.