So what? Maanky is clearly disagreeing with you about the quality of those songs, not whether or not they exist.

You are adding nothing to this.

You are just repeating that we both disagree.

And?

I was pointing out that the issue of the guy having hits isn't really the basis of the debate.

Princess of China is really really good. One of the best songs from that album for sure.

There's worse than Coldplay but it'd be the likes of Creed or Nickelback

Yeah, as Janz said. I don't deny he's managed to shift units. Hey, Bob the Builder managed to scoop two Number 1 singles over here at one point, doesn't make him an 'excellent songwriter'

I don't think we've got to the stage here where we're saying

commercial success = songwriting talent.

Completely fine if you want to discredit him because you don't like the songs that he has written.

I still think there is something to be said for having numerous hits. If it was just one or two. Then you could just brush it off as a fluke like those bob the builder songs but that's not the case.

You aren't having the same discussion it seems.

I like OneRepublic to be honest.

:D

I feel like it has a little bit of originality to it, lyrics wise. Plus its a great song to jam to on the bus.

We all know you love Nickelback.

I love Coldplay shamelessly.

fixed ^_^


(j/k, MPT, I don't agree but I'll always respect you)

Yeah, the way I see it there are far worse bands than Coldplay that have achieved similar success.

I'd take Coldplay over Arctic Monkeys, Snow Patrol, Razorlight, Foster the People, Fun. or The Script anyday.

Okay, Coldplay are a bigger name than any of those (and that exposure is probably why they have more haters, but you catch my drift)

Wow... Not gonna flame you for having different taste, but I assume that is a very unpopular opinion.

Haven't listened much to SnowPatrol, Razorlight, or The Script, but the I like the other 3 all better than Coldplay.

I thought everyone recognized Fun. & Foster the People as rotten unless we're talking about the people who listen to them to proclaim to not being hispters coz they ironically listen to something mainstream.

I could see why people like Arctic Monkeys. They've got their own style and sound, but the lad culture of their music and fans puts me off.
Plus, I don't think they're actually very talented musicians and personally I find them nauseating.

I actually like Parachutes which is more than I can say for any of the other bands' material. But like you said, it's maybe an unpopular opinion. (although on here, I wouldn't doubt if it was a popular one)

"Lad culture"?

The LAD Bible

mindless cretins like the bunch of people who frequent sites like the above.
enter at your own risk.

That site told me absolutely nothing about anything. I still have no real idea what a "lad" is.

At first I thought lad was the UK version of bros/frat boys but after seeing that link. I have no idea.

According to Wikipedia it was the name for people into Britpop in the 90s but I don't really see how that connects to the website Maanky posted.

I'm pretty sure its close to this yeah. Me and my friends call these people "white sunglasses"

No idea what that site is all about tho

It's okay, loving Coldplay shamefully sounds like the kinda kink that would be okay with me, too.

Well, I'm glad no one has any problem with Gorillaz. Those guys are awesome.

I'm pretty sure there are even more people who are okay with Gorillaz than Blur on this site.

Blur > Gorillaz

not huge on either tho tbh

^ how i feel as well..

i like Gorillaz but to me they just make dance music, i can hear it in a club and enjoy it but aside from that i don't hear alot of depth in the music.

Blur at least for me has more depth but not alot either but i like their songs more than their Gorilla songs, i remember seeing and hearing the vid for song 2 when i was young and being blown away by how cool it was! Now im sick of the song but back then i really liked it, the Gorillaz never caused a huge impression on me like that.

CRJ is the best of mainstream pop sorry

Alright you're probably in the 'LAD' criteria:

- if you watch and try to emulate the british versions of Jersey Shore (there are many, they are horrible)
-if you want to talk about gyms, gains, lifts, reps, sets, curls, etc but haven't seen the inside of a gym in your life
-if you fake tan and buy your t-shirts two sizes too small
-if you like starting obnoxious football chants after having two beers
-if you spend more time taking buddy photos with other 'lads' than having your hands on a fine lady
- if you think Michelle Keegan is your dream girl
-if the idea of T in the Park (or your conception of what it should be) - drinking, birds, drinking, football chants, ****ty radio indie band - seems almost too good to be true
-if you refer to girls as 'birds' and wonder why you're never laid
-if you subscribe to the same wave of thought as Jeremy Clarkson
-if you cream yourself over pictures of fast cars
-if you think it's cool to try and soup up a Corsa
-if you hang around car parks with other car users to share in the mutual love of sitting around car parks with other car users
-if you say really dumb things like "big weekend with the lads, can't wait to get smashed, maga '14" with no hint of irony
-if you read Nuts or Zoo
-if you emit no original personality or redeemable characteristic traits
-if your life revolves solely around going to a god awful chain club at the weekends to meet and greet with Joey Essex
- if you're a mindless, generic clone.

Across the pond we just call them douchebags.

Wait, so if that's a lad then what is a chav?

Aye, pretty much your douchebags.

a chav is generally an underclass person who's associated with such themes as underage drinking, smoking copious amounts of cheap cigarettes, wearing tracksuit bottoms, not knowing their fathers, using unintelligible slang, listening to happy hardcore and claiming benefit money from the governments.

They're found scattered across England and parts of Northern Ireland.

In Scotland, we have what are called 'neds'
Similar in species to their English counterparts but with a language of their own, a better fashion sense, always found with a bottle of frosty jacks or buckfast. They occupy local parks and street corners. They're primarily found in the Glasgow and Fife regions and are a damn side more entertaining than chavs.

So... lads are middle class douchebags, while chavs are low class white trash?

bbut geordie shore tho

Lol I was trying to remember the name of that show.
I only saw the trailer for it around the time it was supposed to get started.

me and my friends would use it as a pre drink show mostly. Found it more entertaining because of the british slang that we dont get here.

Jersey Shore was my guilty pleasure though. After wasting my hour watching it and the end I would always say out loud "Why the fuvk do I watch this?".

What the fuck is "T in the Park"?

It's a music fest in Scotland.

Ah.

I watch it when I needing brainless entertainment.

the mere idea that life in Newcastle is being portrayed as aspirational is hilarious, I'll give the show that.