RiPS

I like some new stuff... I also like some old stuff... Amy Winehouse comes to mind.

Black Francis

Me too, i don't really get the mindset of "Music used to be better in my days"
i mean i get most of us have a fav decade in music or genre but it doesn't mean the rest of it is crap.

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William_the_Bloody

When I initially made this thread I admitably was just trying to stir the pot & get a rise out of people. At the time there seemed to be a lot of sucking up to the mods going on, so I thought it would be fun to go around and take the piss out of people, but ultimately realized I'm getting too old to pull this $hit, so I'm back to being polite.

Nevertheless, I provided shreds of evidence and no one who argued against me provided a single shred of counter evidence.

Pop music too loud and all sounds the same: official | Reuters

Scientific study proves that today’s pop music really does suck | Dan from Squirrel Hill's Blog

The Quality Of Popular Music Has Declined - Starpulse.com

How Mediocrity Became the Music Industry Status Quo

http://http://mic.com/articles/95260/how-the-music-industry-is-brainwashing-you-to-like-bad-pop-songs

Soundgarden's Chris Cornell: "Contemporary Pop Music Couldn't Be Any Worse Than It Is Now" | Guitar World

Sir Elton John brands modern songwriters 'pretty awful' - News - Music - The Independent

Tony Bennett criticizes modern pop songs: "Most of them are terrible" - Music News - Digital Spy

Its not that I'm against modern pop music, I'm just opposed to rise of manufactured pop artists that permeated the music industry for the decade of the 2000's, but I did say things were getting better.

If go back in time to say the 80's (this is considered pop's high mark for a lot of people) virtually all the artists from Michael Jackson, to Duran Duran, extra, had to have some degree of musical talent & had to be able to compose their own music. There was no pro tools or wide spread sampling

When R&B took over pop with artists like Britney Spears & Usher, you had the rise of pop stars who relied on sampling & image because they couldn't compose their own songs, and utilized pro tools because they couldn't sing.

I think the reliance on sampling resulted in a huge drop in the quality in pop songs.

So I guess you would say it not old versus new, but the authentic versus the manufactured. Anyways I'm out, cheers

Necromancer

There is a lot more variety with todays modern mainstream, as compared to the 70s for example.
Elton John was about as rock orientated as pop music got during the 70s.

Modern mainstream includes Metalcore bands like Hellyeah (as one small example) that stray off from their original roots and churn out radio friendly singles like their most current release Moth
(which gets a lot of air play).

Thats without holding into account all the rap, electronica, rnb/funk, and hip hop orientated pop music to choose from.

Black Francis

I agree with some of your points William, especially about writing your own stuff and how sampling ruined the quality of music a bit.

At least personally i prefer if they call it cover and do the song justice rather than just stealing it's catchy hook.
that's fine for a party song i guess but to me it seems like a cheap way to make a hit.

I don't however agree with your mindset even if 5 articles do so, like Necro mention, we have more variety nowadays.
Past music is still revered and it was great for what it was but we can't keep making that kinda music forever, music adapts to the times and right now we're living in a time where technology is at the forefront of almost anything, so yea, a kid with a music program doesn't need to know how to play the guitar in order to arrange a guitar riff in a song all he needs is a basic knowledge of song arrangement.

That's good no matter how you cut it cause it's a gateway to use their creativity in music, hopefully they'll pick up an instrument later on

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DeadChannel

Which is why I love math rock...

ladyislingering

a lot of really inane modern shit plays on the overhead radio at my store and there's this one song where you'd almost swear the lyrics were "shove it in my ass, silver lining" but you can't really tell since the vocalist sounds like they're fucking dead.

then there's this other crap where the only thing I remember is some whiny-ass piece of shit singing "say it isn't so!" and all I can think is "I know, right? I can't believe someone made you believe you were fit to be a musician..."

It's all so boring, it makes me sick.

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Frownland

I agree with all of these articles. Now get off my fucking lawn. Damn kids.

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James

Well thank goodness the bright lights of the music industry -****ing Tony Bennett, Elton John, and Chris Cornell - have came out and enlightened everyone about the state of pop today. I've been eagerly awaiting their input.

You're right. Maybe it's good when applied to music, but not music criticism!

I thought you loved dead vocalists

DeadChannel

There's lots of really great music out there today, as well as underground popish stuff, but I'm not a fan of modern mainstream pop music.