James

Art is different. Art shouldn't be looked at mathematically. Arguments need evidence but when it comes to what moves people the most, the cold and calculating approach is ridiculous.

William_the_Bloody

I understand your argument but music has often been open to scientific critique over the years, take Theodore Adorno for instance.

If I had come on here with a post declaring that modern pop music is $hit without providing any scientific evidence, I would have been shot down quite quickly, because it simply would have been viewed as a ranting opinion.

I personally believe that rise of sampling and arpeggios in music has led to a decline in the creativity of pop music. To me its a serious problem when artists are getting signed who cannot write their own musical compositions, which is why were hearing more and more redundant rhythms and beats.

In short Cyndi Lauper and Lady Gaga can compose and play their own music, Rihanna and Britney Spears cannot. It makes a world of difference to me when I listen to their songs.

Ninetales

I did my own study and this is what I found. groundbreaking stuff imo



wow

Lord Larehip

I already mentioned the million song data set last year on this thread, post #26:

http://www.musicbanter.com/pop/70178...sterday-3.html

I may as well have not bothered. But then, when I read remarks from jerk offs who only seem to appear on threads they claim to hate, I don't know why they bother either.

William_the_Bloody

I realize there have been a lot of threads dumping on modern music but that is not my sole intent.

This isn't about the old versus the young, its about the general decline in pop music due to manufactured pop artists that cannot compose their own music.

When you have pop artists relying on dj's to use samples and arpeggios to make your music, your going to have more and more music sounding redundant and the same as LL points out in the study.

I did say there has been a turn around, (Lady Gaga, Pharrell Williams, Goyte, Foster the People ect) but there is still a widespread culture in the corporate music world to simply sign an artist based on their image, and hire a producer to slap together a crappy sampled R & B or dance beat and run their vocals through pro tools because they can't do it on their own.

Key

Honestly, this couldn't be more accurate. I've seen at least 3 threads today that are bashing modern music. We get it.

Blarobbarg

Numbers don't lie.

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William_the_Bloody

Well if modern pop music was good than there wouldn't be so much discontent.

In addition to scientific studies, its also the continuous topic of concern amongst music magazines, entertainment sites, blogs and the such...

The Quality Of Popular Music Has Declined - Starpulse.com

How Mediocrity Became the Music Industry Status Quo

Key

Good lord just shut up about all the facts and blog posts and whatever. Who gives a **** if there is discontent about a genre or about what modern music is, if you don't like it, don't listen to it. Don't throw pointless pieces of information down people's throats in order to possibly make a point, especially when its about music which is easily the most opinionated subject on earth. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said before and it all just boils down to....if you don't like it, don't bother with it. It's really that easy.

William_the_Bloody

F that, its my post and I can bloody well write what I want! I didn't ask you to read or respond to it.

I made this thread because I like pop music and I'm generally concerned about the decline in its quality. So I'll throw as many stats as I want, if you don't like it tough, so once again....

Pop music too loud and all sounds the same: official | Reuters

The Quality Of Popular Music Has Declined - Starpulse.com

How Mediocrity Became the Music Industry Status Quo