sleepy jack

Actually I feel the later half of the Manics music is completely uninspired. As shown by the Holy Bible they do have a certain amount of musical talent. Richey told them how he wanted it to sound and provided the lyrics and everything and what turned out was a very great album. After he ran off they had no direction but they still were talented and they just turned into an overblown and mediocre pop group. The Manics without any inspiration is "Your Love is Not Enough" and that is all. Inspiration is just as important as talent, because inspiration has more to do with creativity than talent does and creativity>talent.

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ADELE

That is the biggest load of crap ever spouted in any forum ever Crowquill and your grandkids will see it in 50 years time in cybespace!!!!
Inspiration is as important as talent? What a load of the biggest pile of dog dodoo ever. Dog dodoo from a dog with gastrinomical problems whose just eaten too much runny gravy with his egg.
If inspiration is as important as talent why don't we write another DSOTM as I am pretty inspired. In fact why don't you or me invent a new mode of transport that is fuel efficient, write the best film script ever, create a new religion etc?
How many bands have more inspiration then I've smoked roll ups yet get nowhere?
Don't pop idol contestents have inspiration coming out of their jacksies?
It is talent Crowquill that does it.
For example the right profile by the clash is not about Monty Clift but about a record producer who everyone said avoid as he is mad but they knew to make it sound right for the public they'd call it a name everyone knew.
Inspiration the same as talent, I can't believe you said that Crowquill.
How much do they pay you to moderate?
I will do your job!!!!!
I can't believe you just said that. You have destroyed your credibility entirely and I can't see any possible way you can stay as a moderator anymore with any dignity!!!!
Only kidding but your point is ludicrous.
Even Urban and RT will be boiling the kettle while trying to come up with some way to try to make you justified in your comments but simply wont be able to.
If inspiration is equal to talent why does any band need to worry about success anymore just feel inspired and it is in the bag.
Do you think MC hammer was not inspired?
ah ha ha.

Urban Hat€monger ?

More trolling I see

Anymore of these kind of comments & you're gone.

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sleepy jack

You didn't even respond to my entire argument you just repeated the same futile comments over and through in some insults. Why don't you try and actually argue instead of posting irrelevant and frankly useless posts like this?

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jackhammer

I find it hilarious that ADELE cannot even spell GILMOUR correctly. Case closed really.

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sleepy jack

Owned.

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TheCaster

First of all you just restated the same thing 15 times. Without inspiration you get the same old boring crap over and over again. if you just write a song to write a song it turns out in ****. but if you get inspired by something you get somewhere. You need a healthy combination of both in order to make a great song.
For example rappers have no inspiration in their beats. if you listen to 10 rap songs i bet you will hear the exact same bassline (or whatever its called in rap) at least 5 times. So without an inspiration in mind, nothing comes out and you just recycle past ideas that were good.
@ the rappers- im sure my knowledge of rap is pure **** (so please dont go into a big arguement about htis point) but i swear every new hit that comes out has the same bassline.

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ADELE

I'm not posting anymore after this.
Attack my spelling when I am dyslexic but the word is spelt threw not through. So not so great yourself.
I am not trolling I have stated my case and tackled your opinions each time. I never mentioned Malcolm in this thread. That was put in for no reason then I am told I am trolling.
I hope others come in to defend my opinions but you will probably not post their comments.
All the moderators have done is attack my spelling and when others read the threads they will see unfair treatment and no real intelligent arguement just attacking my spelling when they don't even spell correct themselves.
Why ban a guy when he is only making an arguement.
You said inspiration is as much of importance as talent.
Everyone who sets out on any business or creative venture is inspired but only a few succeed. Everyone has inspiration not everyone has talent.
Funny how I am accused of trolling (whatever that means) when I have put arguements that all the moderators have attacked and backed each other then threatened to ban me.
That isn't free expression that is childish "you're not coming to my party" attitude.
So I spelt Gilmoure wrong so that is cased closed. My points are not relevant because I spelt his name wrong?
My points are not no longer important because a dyslexic spelt his name with one letter wrong?
Man that is childlike in the extreme.
Is the reason noone backs me up because you fail to publish their posts?
Or will you ban them too if they do?

jackhammer

Being dyslexic would'nt equate to you constantly getting a surname wrong that is printed on the back or around most of their albums. Your spelling is no worse or better than anyone elses so even if you have dyslexia, using it as an excuse it just glossing over the fact that many people have countered your arguments to which you have not replied. You asked me in another thread which woman had made classic albums. I gave you a substanstial list but you never replied and ignored the list. Was it because you were made to look wrong? If you are now going to say that you missed the post then it's extremely lax on your part not to read posts in a thread that you started.

There is no doubt that you have created threads that have, from time to time encouraged good debate. However you have been proved wrong on a number of occasions regarding your facts and have steadfastly refused to acknowledge this.

Challenging myself, Urban, Right-Track, in fact any mod on here for not knowing their stuff is foolhardy. We don't claim to know every single fact about music and you will find that there a lot of threads on these boards that some mods (myself included) do not post in because they wont have the sufficent knowledge to back it up. If we do enter a thread then we know that we are invariably right in our facts, and if we are in the minority then we will hold our hands up and say we are wrong.

If you start a debate you must be able to carry it on through or at least accept counter arguments and post accordingly.

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ADELE

Hey man I didn't start arguing. I will post again if that is the case to see something through.
I put up a decent question and crowquill instantly said about malcolm which was from another of my threads totally unrelated and uncalled for then made the absurd suggestion that been a person who inspires something makes them responsible for the product which is utterly rubbish. If they knew their music they would know that many of the songs were actually about their other friends and wives and each other. Water's main topic was his dead father not syd.
Then people said because I spelt a name wrong the case is closed. Explain that? Yet everyone has made spelling errors here I just don't point them out as I get their point being made and that is what matters. in a debate that is fast and instant you don't bother doing spell checks as the other person is waiting for a response to their point quickly. Style over substance is what the not so bright kids at school worked on when we grew up and went to school.
By throwing their derision on everything I did, exposing every weakness how other moderators write...???
Crowquill also said John Lennon was crap.
A moderator also said Imagine isn't even in his top 100 songs. I don't even think as a solo artist he made 100 songs and to say Imagine isn't in top 100????
As for women in Rock yes I was named about ten women. Doesn't that just validate my point?
Ten out of all the thousands or rock bands there have been and albums made?
Out of all the bands there have been in rock history? That wouldn't even rank as a full percentage point in any rock statistic because women are pop, jazz and so on not rock. that was my point. Not sexist just a fact that rock like playing football is 99% male.
Moderators don't make any valid points about floyd here if they do where is the arguement for waters who claimed he wrote 85% at least of DSOTM and all of the wall and much of wish you were here?
And also that he wrote and co wrote syds material making him the most talented throughout? Moderators never mentioned this becuase they don't know it.
What about the court case that debated who had the right to own the name Pink Floyd which Gilmour won and then they toured with waters doing his own band and not allowing the others to play any of his songs?
What about waters actually finishing much of the Piper himself as syd was too ill but not taking credit as he loved syd but later it became clear to music writers that he and Gilmour actually done most of the studio work on that album as Syd was not able to attend sessions?
Do the moderators mention any of these things?
No, they ignore the thread title and debate obscure opinions about where talent lies like Plato's or Aristotle's.
This is because they don't know as much about music as they like to let on.
I don't comment on rap or blues either because I know nought about them. But I know what I know about rock and punk.
And one last thing, when people attack someone personally without wit it is because they don't have the arguement on the subject. I don't mean witty messing but just insulting about spelling when everyone knows my points. It is also clear that some are using reverse tatics to accuse me of things they themselves have said. It is all on the boards for all to see it just may take a bit of time for your minds to catch up to mine as that is the way it always is with me.
I have not gone over the same point 15 times but noone has debated anything at all about the floyd ...yet.
I have literally had to say every angle myself so it isn't a debate it is just me making all the counter arguements because noone else has.
By the way I am a genius you just don't know who I am.