The 60's Psych Thread (blues, jazz, psychedelic, rock, albums)

Demonoid · 01-24-2009, 11:00 PM

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Definitely.

A bit of Freak Out! era Zappa, a bit of 60s noisy avant-gardeness and some of the earliest example of "proto-punk" all crammed into one record. If ya can't find it, I'll send it over in a days time.

Molecules · 01-24-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

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Definitely.

A bit of Freak Out! era Zappa, a bit of 60s noisy avant-gardeness and some of the earliest example of "proto-punk" all crammed into one record. If ya can't find it, I'll send it over in a days time.

Thanks alot! But no worries I'll fish around for it myself. Music blogs are always a shoo-in for these rarities. Good call on the Freak Out! comparison. F*cking love that album. Cardboard Adolescent has just done a good review of 'Absolutely Free' up in the cat.op 25 thread in the reviews forum; wish he'd done it here the bastard...

Molecules · 01-24-2009, 11:33 PM

classic bloggidge:

ChrisGoesRock: The Deviants - Ptooff (1st Album UK Underground Rock 1967)

Cast · 01-24-2009, 11:56 PM

if anyone is interested in some classic psychedelic rock from both the past and the present i highly recommend the compilation album "A Monstrous Psychedelic Bubble Exploding In Your Mind Vol. 1" got some insanely good tracks.

Dr_Rez · 01-25-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cast

if anyone is interested in some classic psychedelic rock from both the past and the present i highly recommend the compilation album "A Monstrous Psychedelic Bubble Exploding In Your Mind Vol. 1" got some insanely good tracks.

Do you have a link to pm? If so I will definitely check it out.

Gavin B. · 01-26-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jazzrocks

The Beatles have not been really been mentioned so I will talk about them. The thing I noticed their Psychedelic sound is so unlike what anyone else was doing at the time it really for the most part veers towards Art-Rock.

Take "Tomorrow Never Knows" for instance has Tamboura drones, modal tune, backward guitar, tape loops, ADT, mellotron, vocals played through revolving speakers, distortedly close-up miking of instruments, and a psychedelically mystical "outlook.

For the most part early to mid 1966 most of the so-called psychedelic songs I have heard sound more like garage rock with Psych elements.

The Beatles should get a lifetime achievement award in psychedelica for making this video. I love the part where Lennon makes a 20 foot leap unto the tree branch. It reminds me of a film by surrealist Luis Bunel.

Tommorrow Never Knows was one of the Beatles great acheivements. I always thought the album title Revolver is brilliant because you can read a dozen different meanings into that one word title.

Gavin B. · 01-26-2009, 07:34 AM

Moby Grape was a victim of an over hyped P.R. campaign by Columbia and exploited by a draconian manager, Matthew Katz, who stole all of the rights to their songs. Katz even prevented them from performing under the name Moby Grape once they fired him. Moby Grape's musical journey was one disaster after another.

This ancient video really doesn't capture the elegant 4 and 5 part harmonies of the group or their blazing three guitar crossfire. I think they were the best live band of the era and many of their songs were high octane garage rock songs. Their music was a adrenalin rush that counterpointed the dreamy psychedelica that many of the San Francisco bands played. At live performances Skip Spence would leap and careen about the stage like a charismatic shaman.

In the video, Skip is the guitar player on the far left standing on the riser. Skip was musical genius and golden boy of psychedelic rock in San Francisco. Skip was also a early member of Quicksilver Messenger Service and the Jefferson Airplane. Moby Grape performs two songs in a very subdued manner.

Spence was hospitalized in New York city for going on a rampage with a fireman's ax in a posh Manhattan hotel. He was committed to Bellvue Hospital and diagnosed with schizophrenia. Skip recorded a swan song solo album, after his release from Bellvue called Oar which was a splendid acid-charred pastiche of folk and country music and turned out to be the worst selling album in the history of Warner Brothers Records. Skip moved to San Jose CA and was periodically homeless over the next 25 years but he never gave up music. He participated in a few of the Moby Grape reunions over the years. He also was frequently seen busking for spare change with his vintage Martin acoustic guitar in parking lots and parks around San Jose.

This video appearance by Moby Grape was on a lame Sixties American afternoon talk show hosted by Mike Douglas. For all of his squareness Douglas was one of the few talk show hosts who invited good bands to perform on his show. John Lennon and Yoko Ono actually spent a week co-hosting the show with Douglas in 1969. Notice how Douglas misintroduces Moby Grape as The Moby Grapes.

Gavin B. · 01-26-2009, 07:55 AM

Talk about contrasting lifesytles! The Greatful Dead blows the minds of the international jet set and the bimbo bunnies at the Playboy penthouse in Chicago. The Dead look like a bunch of psychedelic wild men who wandered in the wilderness for 10 years and are now returning to deliver fire and brimstone to the wicked Pharoah.

This 1969 edition of the band was truly a wonder to behold and they played with a passion and immediacy that was lacking in later editions of the band. Hef is seated stage left with an everpresent bimbo at his side. I love watching Pigpen wailing away at the congas toward the end of the song.

These Grateful Dead members were the ragged-but-right paychedelic road warriors that built their awesome reputation on the basis of their electrifying live shows. When this was recorded the Dead were deeply in debt and living hand to mouth, from show to show. Jerry Garcia often puzzled about how the band was going to survive the dire economic circumstances they faced in 1968 and 1969.

Gavin B. · 01-26-2009, 08:51 AM

The Jimmy Page edition of the Yardbirds perfoming a rave-up rendition of Shapes of Things. The Yardbirds were the first high profile innovators of psychedelica. Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page set the high standard to which many psychedelic guitarists aspired to but few reached.

What gets overlooked is the muscular playing of the Yardbirds rythym section consisting of drummer Jim McCarty, rhythm guitarist/bassist Chris Dreja, and bassist/producer Paul Samwell-Smith, all of whom co-wrote the Yardbirds' original hits and constituted the core players of the group. Samwell-Smith was also producer of the pristine sound mix on the Yardbird records which were wonderous giving the limitations of sound and recording technology of that time.

Gavin B. · 01-26-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

^
Definitely.

A bit of Freak Out! era Zappa, a bit of 60s noisy avant-gardeness and some of the earliest example of "proto-punk" all crammed into one record. If ya can't find it, I'll send it over in a days time.

I still have no idea of how to adequately describe the music on the first three albums by the Mothers of Invention. I took one glance at the cover of Freak Out in the record bins and I was in love. The cover of Freak Out had a prominent sticker that said "This music has no commerical potential" which made me decide I couldn't afford NOT to buy this album.

Once I managed sneak "Help I'm A Rock" on the turntable to play for members of my unsuspecting elementary school music appreciation class. About two minutes into the yowling chaos of the song, my music teacher psysically dragged out of class and walked me to the principal's office. I was suspended creating a disturbance and making mockery of my music class. Pretty subversive stuff.

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Gavin B. Model Worker Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,248	Talk about contrasting lifesytles! The Greatful Dead blows the minds of the international jet set and the bimbo bunnies at the Playboy penthouse in Chicago. The Dead look like a bunch of psychedelic wild men who wandered in the wilderness for 10 years and are now returning to deliver fire and brimstone to the wicked Pharoah. This 1969 edition of the band was truly a wonder to behold and they played with a passion and immediacy that was lacking in later editions of the band. Hef is seated stage left with an everpresent bimbo at his side. I love watching Pigpen wailing away at the congas toward the end of the song. These Grateful Dead members were the ragged-but-right paychedelic road warriors that built their awesome reputation on the basis of their electrifying live shows. When this was recorded the Dead were deeply in debt and living hand to mouth, from show to show. Jerry Garcia often puzzled about how the band was going to survive the dire economic circumstances they faced in 1968 and 1969. Last edited by Gavin B.; 01-26-2009 at 08:10 AM.

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Gavin B. Model Worker Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,248	The Jimmy Page edition of the Yardbirds perfoming a rave-up rendition of Shapes of Things. The Yardbirds were the first high profile innovators of psychedelica. Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page set the high standard to which many psychedelic guitarists aspired to but few reached. What gets overlooked is the muscular playing of the Yardbirds rythym section consisting of drummer Jim McCarty, rhythm guitarist/bassist Chris Dreja, and bassist/producer Paul Samwell-Smith, all of whom co-wrote the Yardbirds' original hits and constituted the core players of the group. Samwell-Smith was also producer of the pristine sound mix on the Yardbird records which were wonderous giving the limitations of sound and recording technology of that time. Last edited by Gavin B.; 01-26-2009 at 09:05 AM.

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Demonoid Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 734	^ Definitely. A bit of Freak Out! era Zappa, a bit of 60s noisy avant-gardeness and some of the earliest example of "proto-punk" all crammed into one record. If ya can't find it, I'll send it over in a days time.

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Cast Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10	if anyone is interested in some classic psychedelic rock from both the past and the present i highly recommend the compilation album "A Monstrous Psychedelic Bubble Exploding In Your Mind Vol. 1" got some insanely good tracks.

01-26-2009, 07:34 AM	#97 (permalink)
Gavin B. Model Worker Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,248	Moby Grape was a victim of an over hyped P.R. campaign by Columbia and exploited by a draconian manager, Matthew Katz, who stole all of the rights to their songs. Katz even prevented them from performing under the name Moby Grape once they fired him. Moby Grape's musical journey was one disaster after another. This ancient video really doesn't capture the elegant 4 and 5 part harmonies of the group or their blazing three guitar crossfire. I think they were the best live band of the era and many of their songs were high octane garage rock songs. Their music was a adrenalin rush that counterpointed the dreamy psychedelica that many of the San Francisco bands played. At live performances Skip Spence would leap and careen about the stage like a charismatic shaman. In the video, Skip is the guitar player on the far left standing on the riser. Skip was musical genius and golden boy of psychedelic rock in San Francisco. Skip was also a early member of Quicksilver Messenger Service and the Jefferson Airplane. Moby Grape performs two songs in a very subdued manner. Spence was hospitalized in New York city for going on a rampage with a fireman's ax in a posh Manhattan hotel. He was committed to Bellvue Hospital and diagnosed with schizophrenia. Skip recorded a swan song solo album, after his release from Bellvue called Oar which was a splendid acid-charred pastiche of folk and country music and turned out to be the worst selling album in the history of Warner Brothers Records. Skip moved to San Jose CA and was periodically homeless over the next 25 years but he never gave up music. He participated in a few of the Moby Grape reunions over the years. He also was frequently seen busking for spare change with his vintage Martin acoustic guitar in parking lots and parks around San Jose. This video appearance by Moby Grape was on a lame Sixties American afternoon talk show hosted by Mike Douglas. For all of his squareness Douglas was one of the few talk show hosts who invited good bands to perform on his show. John Lennon and Yoko Ono actually spent a week co-hosting the show with Douglas in 1969. Notice how Douglas misintroduces Moby Grape as The Moby Grapes.