The Future of Prog looking forward, Grim?

Neapolitan · 01-07-2016, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Come over here an' say that!

Thanks a lot, I think you chased him off before I brought the idea of making T-shirts with Prog bands like Egg, Uriah Heep, or Starcastle - something artsy. There has to be a market for that stuff.

I wonder if he did work for "Tributary Records", and what he thought of us.

I did look at one site that was called "Tributary Records" and it only had "Holy Santos Gang" and "Rockin' Rudy" as artist. Discog the only artist I found signed to Tributary Records was "Black Miss." I wonder if there are more than one "Tributary Records." I didn't see Prog bands listed on those two sites. Youtube was different there is a Tributary Records channel; it has very few videos, like only three at the moment.

Trollheart · 01-07-2016, 01:41 PM

Maybe he's just pissed he can't attract any decent bands, and so assumes "those damn kids on the lawn with their com-pyoo-turs" are taking up all the air?

Tributary Records · 01-07-2016, 02:01 PM

This is our label site:

[Spammy bull**** deleted by mod]

We are a boutique label, but we are the original [LABEL NAME REMOVRD] Label. Someone came along later and used our name, not worth fighting over. We formed in 1998.

Our site is a Flash site, it's designed for laptop or desktop computers, not iPhones or small screen devices. Hopefully it won't come up on those. We have combined and worked with artists and photographers, actors, performing arts etc.

Recent quality upgrades by youtube has raised our interest in posting some things there, so we just put up a channel a couple of weeks ago.

Here is a recent collaboration with master painter Teddy Fisher - Art Rock Circus

In 1996 we staged a large scale Rock Opera in Las Vegas at The Flamingo Theater. It did two runs there and then a 6 week run in Los Angeles in 2004. We never released a video of the production because to be honest, it was too dark in the theater. Had we booked an extra week to try and light all the scenes properly, then I think it could have been considered. But we have been going through the three camera footage recently to commemorate the 20 year anniversary of the event. We did get some great stills, but the event was really meant to be experienced live. The audio recording capture the second night was excellent. We did release that and it sold quite well for us back before all the file sharing stuff "Napster", "Kazar" etc took over and changed things. It really hurt the artists and labels.

All of our artists and projects are live bands or performers. Since the decline of record sales, we have been able to continue onward from other sources of funding like art grants and endowments. Actually it's a much better way of going about things, because when we are given funding, it's more philanthropic so we can keep control over the creative menu.

I don't think we ever could have done this by sending links or digital files of our work to Art Foundations. It just doesn't make the same impact. Not anywhere close. People come to our performances or participate and want to get involved.

The inherent nature of anything internet is simply disposable. It is convenient for basis stuff… such as this.

grindy · 01-07-2016, 03:04 PM

Sooo... was this whole thread just a set-up for some self-promotion?

The Batlord · 01-07-2016, 03:07 PM

Well his screen name is the name of his record company, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Tributary Records · 01-07-2016, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Maybe he's just pissed he can't attract any decent bands, and so assumes "those damn kids on the lawn with their com-pyoo-turs" are taking up all the air?

"I wonder if there are more than one "Tributary Records." I didn't see Prog bands listed on those two sites. Youtube was different there is a Tributary Records channel; it has very few videos, like only three at the moment."

Just responding to this.

We don't live off promotion or have any specific interest in internet music distribution. We are not on soundcloud or iTunes by choice.

Neapolitan · 01-07-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tributary Records

Just responding to this.

We don't live off promotion or have any specific interest in internet music distribution. We are not on soundcloud or iTunes by choice.

I listen to "Endless" by Art Rock Circus, I didn't mind it, some of it is reminiscent of KC. So does the artist Teddy Fisher often collaborate with Tributary Records? You should have him design Prog-themed shirts - concert style, with medium sleeve length. I heard that's how G&R made their money, off of concert shirts. To quote Space Balls by Mel Brooks "Merchandising, merchandising, merchandising."

JGuy Grungeman · 01-07-2016, 03:36 PM

Unless it's a journal, five posts in a row clearly shows agitation. Really, you should just think about how things are going to affect people before saying something. Either that, or you could put it in a nicer manner.

grindy · 01-07-2016, 03:41 PM

Or he could just have not opened this ridiculous thread at all, instead posting into the prog rock recommendation thread, asking for some good newer stuff.

JGuy Grungeman · 01-07-2016, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tributary Records

Being the co owner - founder of a fairly successful art rock prog label, it's always a daunting question thinking about the future.

My feeling is the best prog was made in the 1970's and little has been nearly as innovative, creative and executed as well since. I certainly have my theories, but would enjoy hearing what others have to say about it.

How does prog really move forward?

This was all that was said in the first post. The worry that prog's future is looking grim is at least rational. What he said about electronic wasn't.

TR, music is a collaboration of sounds used to create a rhythmatic experience that's pleasing to the ears. But that depends on the ears. What's good is debatable. What is and is not music isa bad way to look at things. Even a guy banging on pots to an uneven tempo and singing off key to a different tempo is still music, but it'll likely suck.

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01-07-2016, 02:01 PM	#63 (permalink)
Tributary Records Groupie Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 39	This is our label site: [Spammy bull**** deleted by mod] We are a boutique label, but we are the original [LABEL NAME REMOVRD] Label. Someone came along later and used our name, not worth fighting over. We formed in 1998. Our site is a Flash site, it's designed for laptop or desktop computers, not iPhones or small screen devices. Hopefully it won't come up on those. We have combined and worked with artists and photographers, actors, performing arts etc. Recent quality upgrades by youtube has raised our interest in posting some things there, so we just put up a channel a couple of weeks ago. Here is a recent collaboration with master painter Teddy Fisher - Art Rock Circus In 1996 we staged a large scale Rock Opera in Las Vegas at The Flamingo Theater. It did two runs there and then a 6 week run in Los Angeles in 2004. We never released a video of the production because to be honest, it was too dark in the theater. Had we booked an extra week to try and light all the scenes properly, then I think it could have been considered. But we have been going through the three camera footage recently to commemorate the 20 year anniversary of the event. We did get some great stills, but the event was really meant to be experienced live. The audio recording capture the second night was excellent. We did release that and it sold quite well for us back before all the file sharing stuff "Napster", "Kazar" etc took over and changed things. It really hurt the artists and labels. All of our artists and projects are live bands or performers. Since the decline of record sales, we have been able to continue onward from other sources of funding like art grants and endowments. Actually it's a much better way of going about things, because when we are given funding, it's more philanthropic so we can keep control over the creative menu. I don't think we ever could have done this by sending links or digital files of our work to Art Foundations. It just doesn't make the same impact. Not anywhere close. People come to our performances or participate and want to get involved. The inherent nature of anything internet is simply disposable. It is convenient for basis stuff… such as this.

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JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Unless it's a journal, five posts in a row clearly shows agitation. Really, you should just think about how things are going to affect people before saying something. Either that, or you could put it in a nicer manner.