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OccultHawk 01-14-2018 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1914601)
Yeah it's definitely hard. On another day, with more time, the whole ten would probably change.
Aaaaaaanyway....
Let's mix it up!
Trollheart's Bottom Ten Genesis Tracks
Number Ten

"Another Record" - Abacab (1981)

****ing Christ that’s miserable

Trollheart 01-14-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914603)
Occult Genesis Top Ten
Number Three: Cuckoo Cocoon


Yeah not one of my favourites off The Lamb.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914604)
****ing Christ that’s miserable

You mean it's miserable that I chose it, or that it's a miserable song? Which it is.

OccultHawk 01-14-2018 01:15 PM

Miserable song.

I can’t believe you said that about CC.

Occult Genesis Top Ten
Number Two: Back in NYC



The best Who song by Genesis.

grindy 01-14-2018 01:22 PM

Too lazy for top tens but the best Genesis song is obviously:


OccultHawk 01-14-2018 01:24 PM

Occult Genesis Top Ten

Number One: Fly on a Windsheild/Broadway Melody of 1974



The ****ing best

OccultHawk 01-14-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1914610)
Too lazy for top tens but the best Genesis song is obviously:


You’re a Chula-wannabe

Trollheart 01-14-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914608)
Miserable song.

I can’t believe you said that about CC.

Occult Genesis Top Ten
Number Two: Back in NYC



The best Who song by Genesis.

Yeah "Another Record" is just one of the many many reasons I don't rate that album. AND it's the closing track, so that's what you're left hearing in your head. Jesus.

I don't hate Cuckoo Cocoon, I just know there are far better tracks on the album. OTTOMH: Title track, The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging, In the Cage, The Lamia, Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats, The Colony of Slippermen, Hairless Heart, Riding the Scree, It....
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1914610)
Too lazy for top tens but the best Genesis song is obviously:


Very very close to the top of mine, yes.

Trollheart 01-14-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914611)
Occult Genesis Top Ten

Number One: Fly on a Windsheild/Broadway Melody of 1974



The ****ing best

HOW could you make such a ROOKIE MISTAKE? That's going to cost you votes!
:laughing:

OccultHawk 01-14-2018 01:32 PM

Because there are better songs or dispute about which track that actually is?

grindy 01-14-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914613)
You’re a Chula-wannabe

In what way?

OccultHawk 01-14-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1914621)
In what way?

He’s mentioned that song several times.

Trollheart 01-14-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914617)
Because there are better songs or dispute about which track that actually is?

Your video code was ****ed up.

Trollheart's Genesis Top Ten
Number Nine

"Cul-de-sac" - Duke (1980)

Anteater 01-14-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914594)
Anything Now was a deplorable B-Side off a single from Calling All Stations. Ant’s just ****ing with you.

Lol what are you smoking. Anything Now has a killer hook and melodic progression. Best song out of the Calling All Stations sessions other than The Dividing Line.

Trollheart 01-14-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1914733)
Lol what are you smoking. Anything Now has a killer hook and melodic progression. Best song out of the Calling All Stations sessions other than The Dividing Line.

Post it. :D

Anteater 01-14-2018 03:00 PM


Trollheart 01-14-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1914739)

All right, that sounds like a reject from the 1983 album. Can't say I think much of it. Where's the Genesis identity in it? Anyone could have recorded that, and if I heard it on the radio - especially as it's not Collins singing - I doubt I'd know it was Genesis.

On we go:
Trollheart's Genesis Top Ten
Number Eight

"Fading Lights" - We Can't Dance (1991)
If only for the incredible Banks keyboard solo that takes up about half of this ten-minute closer that should have brought the curtain down on their career in fine style.

OccultHawk 01-14-2018 03:23 PM

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what are you smoking
Purple kush

Troll,

Just admit that my list rules. I out Genesised you and Chula.

Trollheart 01-14-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914755)
Purple kush

Troll,

Just admit that my list rules. I out Genesised you and Chula.

Nah. Wait till you see mine before you make a statement like that.
Also, don't be a pussy: pick out your worst tracks, you know they're there.

OccultHawk 01-14-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1914753)
All right, that sounds like a reject from the 1983 album. Can't say I think much of it. Where's the Genesis identity in it? Anyone could have recorded that, and if I heard it on the radio - especially as it's not Collins singing - I doubt I'd know it was Genesis.

On we go:
Trollheart's Genesis Top Ten
Number Eight

"Fading Lights" - We Can't Dance (1991)
If only for the incredible Banks keyboard solo that takes up about half of this ten-minute closer that should have brought the curtain down on their career in fine style.

Their 8th best song? **** outta here.

OccultHawk 01-14-2018 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1914756)
Nah. Wait till you see mine before you make a statement like that.
Also, don't be a pussy: pick out your worst tracks, you know they're there.

**** you. I’m not scouring through the worst of Genesis.

Trollheart 01-14-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914759)
**** you. I’m not scouring through the worst of Genesis.

Then you're a pussy. It's easy. Surely you know the songs you don't like? Ah do what you like, but I know mine.

And here's another one:
Trollheart's Genesis Bottom Ten
Number Nine

"Congo" - Calling All Stations (1997)
So many I could have chosen off that album, but this one really sucks, especially coming after the title and between that and the excellent "Shipwrecked".

Anteater 01-14-2018 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1914753)
All right, that sounds like a reject from the 1983 album. Can't say I think much of it. Where's the Genesis identity in it? Anyone could have recorded that, and if I heard it on the radio - especially as it's not Collins singing - I doubt I'd know it was Genesis. .

Eh, that piano improvisation is pure Banks bruh. And Ray has a great voice, though he doesn't resemble Collins all that much.

Trollheart 01-14-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1914776)
Eh, that piano improvisation is pure Banks bruh. And Ray has a great voice, though he doesn't resemble Collins all that much.

I didn't say Ray hadn't a good voice; I just said that listening to it on the radio I wouldn't recognise it as Genesis. I think I'd have understood the title track to be Genesis, even though I would have wondered who was doing the vocals, but not that. Piano improv whatever, the melody owes nothing to the Genesis I know.

Trollheart 01-15-2018 05:21 AM

Trollheart's Genesis Top Ten
Number Seven

"Burning Rope" - ... And Then There Were Three (1978)

Trollheart's Genesis Bottom Ten
Number Eight

"Tell Me Why" - We Can't Dance (1991)

Trollheart 01-15-2018 09:48 AM

Trollheart's Genesis Top Ten
Number Six

"The Lamia" - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1975)

Trollheart's Genesis Bottom Ten
Number Seven

"Anything She Does" - Invisible Touch (1986)

OccultHawk 01-15-2018 10:01 AM

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The Lamia
Beautiful song.

Trollheart 01-15-2018 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1915035)
Beautiful song.

It is. Pair it with "Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats" and you have one of the most beautiful Genesis compositions ever really.

OccultHawk 01-15-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1915039)
It is. Pair it with "Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats" and you have one of the most beautiful Genesis compositions ever really.

The best Eno song by Genesis. You could loop that for an hour and it would be a top ambient recording for 2018.

Trollheart 01-15-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1915044)
The best Eno song by Genesis. You could loop that for an hour and it would be a top ambient recording for 2018.

:beer:

Anteater 01-15-2018 03:43 PM

#Buildthesee-throughsolarpoweredwall


Trollheart 01-15-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1915231)
#Buildthesee-throughsolarpoweredwall


#Racist

Anteater 01-15-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1915244)
#Racist

I'm pretty sure Phil Collins is part Spaniard. ;)

Trollheart 01-15-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1915246)
I'm pretty sure Phil Collins is part Spaniard. ;)

Spanish can be racist too. Seriously though, listen to the lyric: it's almost Trumpesque in its racism. And it's a **** song. Speaking of which, time to go back to

Trollheart's Genesis Bottom Ten
Number Six


"Keep it Dark" - Abacab (1981)

Trollheart 01-15-2018 05:05 PM

Okay let's go: now we're getting to the serious ****.
Trollheart's Genesis Top Ten
Number Five


"Firth of Fifth" - Selling England by the Pound (1973)
Unassailable, indubitably unassailable.

OccultHawk 01-15-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1915255)
Okay let's go: now we're getting to the serious ****.
Trollheart's Genesis Top Ten
Number Five


"Firth of Fifth" - Selling England by the Pound (1973)
Unassailable, indubitably unassailable.


The best ELP song by Genesis.

Anteater 01-15-2018 06:00 PM

Anteater's Real Genesis Top Ten

Number Ten


Who needs Selling England By The Pound when you can be this brilliant. It takes a true prog mindset to incorporate Prince influences into heavy progressive synth-rock, and this song shows how Genesis really was the leader of the prog pack in the 80's as they left their commercial 70's era behind. And there's a deep meaning behind the song too: sussudio is actually a lost Gaelic prayer that refers to a forgotten fertility goddess of the Irish plains, relating to the changing of the seasons and the sacrifice of virgins to bless the growth of crops for the coming spring. It is said that during this songwriting period that Collins, Rutherford and Banks were inspired by a drive-through screening of The Wicker Man (sans Nicholas Cage).

Trollheart 01-15-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1915263)
Anteater's Real Genesis Top Ten

Number Ten


Who needs Selling England By The Pound when you can be this brilliant. It takes a true prog mindset to incorporate Prince influences into heavy progressive synth-rock, and this song shows how Genesis really was the leader of the prog pack in the 80's as they left their commercial 70's era behind. And there's a deep meaning behind the song too: sussudio is actually a lost Gaelic prayer that refers to a forgotten fertility goddess of the Irish plains, relating to the changing of the seasons and the sacrifice of virgins to bless the growth of crops for the coming spring. It is said that during this songwriting period that Collins, Rutherford and Banks were inspired by a drive-through screening of The Wicker Man (sans Nicholas Cage).

Please refer to the OP: no solo ****. And how can you have a Phil Collins song in your Genesis top ten, huh? Also, that song? That was the one that started me hating him. Up to then, the first two albums were great, then he pulls this pop crap? GTFO Phil.

Right. This is a wind-up, innit?

OccultHawk 01-15-2018 08:18 PM

Stop feeding the troll, troll

Trollheart 01-15-2018 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1915279)
Stop feeding the troll, troll

But he's SO cute! Can we keep him, huh? Can we, can we?

Neapolitan 01-15-2018 08:49 PM

I can't participate in farce of a thread, which btw was started by an Anti-Abacaber. It's MusicBanter amateur hour at its worst. :(

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1915256)
The best ELP song by Genesis.

I am fan of ELP. I always thought they great musicians. Keith Emerson was known for some crazy onstage antics. He would pull out knives (he had two) and stab at his organ, to sustain a note. When he was done he would through them into his Leslie cabinet. The blades would dull pretty quick and if they weren't sharpen they would bounce off the cabinet. There was one time Keith threw the knife and it ricocheted off the cabinet and the knife went directly into his roadie's leg. Ouch! That's gotta hurt.

Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Knife Edge / Rondo / Drum Solo - Live 1970 - Remastered


In the early days of Genesis they would go to see [the Nice] in concert. They saw Kieth do onstage did what I just described. In fact they actually named the The Knife after the knife in Kieth's knife act. Believe it or not the person who gave those two knives to Keith Emerson was Lemmy Kilmister. So whenever I hear The Knife I feel Lemmy somehow lives on in spirit in that song, because it was his knife originally.

So if you are going to get serious about the best "Genesis a la ELP via The Nice" song it would have to be The Knife.

Genesis - The Knife


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