the ramones have been on MTV, so does that mean they're not punk? No

wow, that wasn't very cool, maybe he hasn't a difrent definition of what punk is.

I think jesus's sig says it all to be honest.

Question: What is the point in arguing what category a band fits into, its surely the actual music that they produce which anyone gives half a **** about. Furthermore, style is individual, therefore not everybody's gonna agree. Correct me if i'm wrong anyone, but music isn't about giving names to a certain style, it's about the effect the song has i.e. "That was outragously spiffing old bean, what?" and so on.

GREAT first post, that really made me laugh. Not in a bad way, Im not laughing at you, I just imagined Charlie Chaplin saying that after listening to Green Day for some reason... Hehehehe...

Every time I read this thread title it makes me think that maybe, just maybe Green Day have split up. Then I switch on the TV and realise that they're still going.

*sigh*

well said daniel, genre is an evil, EVVVVIIIILL word that deserves abolishment.

Agreed, anyone who disagrees will get a firm leering at from my direction. Onward!

green day interview in "smash hits" magazine, media cant get enough it seems.

dont ask why i was reading smash hits.

Please, do continue, what is your exact problem with Green Day then sir? It's just that that entire charade was an unintelligent dig at the band with no real purpose, other than to indicate your general disdain for Green Day. If i'm being critical, i'd say it was a complete and utter waste of time, effort and typing. And i am being critical, son.

I was going to, then I decided against it...

He was just saying how he didnt like them. You'll get that a lot here, and wouldnt you rather that? Think about it, how boring would forums on music be if everyone just said "Yes I like this band." Over and over and over and over and over again...

Id get bloody bored.

And i absolutely agree, however... what i was saying was that this guy dug at the band and that was it. It was the post equivalent to throwing salt into someones eye's, then running away. Listen, i love a good argument mate, why u think i joined this forummy type thing. What do u think i was trying to provoke in response, a dance?

Hah I want to do that one day.. The salt thing.

And anyway, Im sure he's said what he has against Green Day before, they've been on these forums constantly for a while now..

Precisely, i wanted to know what he had against Green Day, so i could respond in defense and smote his ass down. Incidently, Vimto.

Well then by all means, smote away... I dont think you'll get far somehow though, people tend to stick to their opinions strongly when it comes to green day and such.. Well, good luck anyhoos! :D

Thank you kindly for your encouragement, however i am now retiring to me bed, due to the fact i am SHATTERED. In response to any anti-Green Day jibes whilst i'm absent, i disagree wholeheartedly.

Fair enough. If you like your music to be derivative, bland and purposeless, then continue to "enjoy" Greenday. And please, don't call me son, you might think it gives you an air of joviality and possibly even superiority, but it doesn't.

Unintelligent and with no real purpose. Good way to describe Green Day actually. Smote that.

I'm not fully aware of your intentions, but I imagine that you say something like this because your exposure to "punk" music does not go beyond that of bands that are of excessive rotation on the radio. Just because an individual cannot associate any given band with a genre does not imply that genre's are unnecessary or "evil" as one person put it. The first step is admitting you know little about a genre, for instance, punk. Whether or not you think Green Day is a good or bad band, I honestly from the bottom of my heart don't care. But when people hype Green Day as a quitessential/important punk band, and makes "tributes" to them, it is a travesty to punk bands you aren't aware of, just because they don't receive mainstream exposure. In conclusion, it is more than okay to like Green Day, but to put them at the top of a genre you probably don't know much about is naive. That is my two cents.

^:beer: well said

People still care about punk?

People still care about Green Day?

:laughing:

Yeah people still care about punk. Well, at least I do. Sorry.

Yeah people still care about Green Day. Like you said before, they've done well for singing the same song for fifteen years.

I do to!! We should start a club *Gives E-high five*

people still care about punk...

what a ****ing stupid question to ask in a punk forum...

Yeah i know another dumb one would be....LOC SUCKS ANYONE AGREE!?!?

or why isn't green day punk?

Yeah that is pretty dumb.

Glady. Firstly, derived from what exactly. Secondly, please elaborate upon just what makes Green Day - an already popular band, therefore one which would have something to lose, produce an album called "American Idiot" - "bland". Thirdly, how can a band just think to themselves, "I know, lets make a song with this exact beat and melody, with these exact lyrics, for abolutely no reason at all. Then we'll sell it for no reason, so people can listen to it for no reason."

Furthermore, you say i might think that calling you "son" gives me an air of, what you so eloquantly described as, joviality and/or superiority. Well yes i might think that, but i don't.

I look forward with utmost eagerness to your next installation, son.

Well allow me to enlighten you as to what my intentions were. My intentions were as follows: to convey my opinion, that i positively do not, give the minutest **** about genre classification, on the firm basis that the individual is capable of independant thought. Therefore, the definition of a certain genre is highly succeptible to a widely varied consensus of opinion, due to the factors which would render a band in a particular genre. Therefore, the word "punk" is in fact interpreted in a variety of ways, accross the spectrum and will never be agreed upon, due to the finer subtleties of what makes music, music. Music is not about what you call it. Its about what it is, to you.

As far as i am concerned, a genre's only use is to relate a word to type of music which is not resolutely agreed upon and never will be, no matter how hard the media try to tell you otherwise.

Good way to look at it, I like that..

Anway, I dont hate Green Day, but I dont like them either. There are aspects of some of their older stuff that I dont mind, but.. I wouldnt choose to listen to them. I think saying how they were the most influential bands of the last however many years is going too far (as someone said earlier in here) I dont see how theyve influenced the music scene that much at all.. But thats just how I see it. Ok, Im done with this thread now, thanks for listening to all that..

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And lots of them. Need any more elaboration, dad?

someone should lock this thread...could of said that a long time ago, but now it's just getting annoying even seeing this thread in the punk forum. :banghead:

green day....

punk....no
****.....yes
green day are a really poor excuess for a band, pop rock i think, about as punk as JLO,
they are a disgrace there all just a bunch of dweebs and goons who do they think they are?
mad rocks on there vids but in reality little gimps ,that like sucking balls.

they suck, they should be shot!
and taking the piss out of america really?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well that was a sad attempt to either seem cool, or know about punk music...

Hahaha i was actually going with that was a sad attempt to look cool at knowing punk.

you "smote" him there? you asked him to elaborate. nothing more.
how about this. count the number of chords in american idiot-any song or album would do, but people for some reason are quite persistant that this album isnt a waste of time-and then compare it to basically any other band, but for arguments sake shall we say, godspeed you black emperor, or refused, or any opther band with more than three chords?
greenday have limited musical mtalent. of course they have a minor amount, they can play an a,c and g and occasionally an f on guitars!
greenday are pioneers in nothing. they are inspirational to no decent bands i have ever seen or heard about.
in my opinion american idiot was made because the record companies went "your album sold well. make us another!"
"yes sir mr gives me money. anything you money money."
three days later, american idiot was written.

Greenday are one of the best punk bands in existence, I hate these people who slag off greenday, saying they'e pop music like mcfly and busted who thankfully don't exist anymore, as charlie joined a real band, fightstar.
Greenday's best album is probably dookie. american idiot was a bit of a disappointment, but it had a few good songs on it, like boulevard of broken dreams, and st jimmy. :band:

yes they are!!! :usehead: