boulevard of broken dreams is just a continiously annoying bubble gum pop song and you know it...They play it on the radio 24 fu*ckin 7

Don't let this brother of yours control you, make up your own mind.

boulevard of broken dreams is not pop, its punk, just like all of greenday's songs.
greenday are not like mcfly, they're not manufactured boyband pop, they're kicka*** punk

I love how you dorks come on here talking about Green Day being punk, and at the same time not contribute to any of the other posts because you know nothing else about punk. Turn off your MTV, go out and listen to some of the other bands mentioned in this forum, come back in a week and let us know if you still think Green Day is punk.

^thank you :)

im just curious, why are they?

ill state again though this isn't my arguement, importance is like genre, its all down to the person who listens to it. Some might think Green Day are important, some might not, at the end of the day who cares because no matter what you think some *******s gunna come along and slag you off for it. Now can we PLEASE end this repetitive, back-and-forth, pointless arguement as their is no answer, its all subjective. Ah-thank-YOH.

[QUOTE=covle]you "smote" him there? you asked him to elaborate. nothing more.
how about this. count the number of chords in american idiot-any song or album would do, but people for some reason are quite persistant that this album isnt a waste of time-and then compare it to basically any other band, but for arguments sake shall we say, godspeed you black emperor, or refused, or any opther band with more than three chords?
greenday have limited musical mtalent. of course they have a minor amount, they can play an a,c and g and occasionally an f on guitars!
greenday are pioneers in nothing. they are inspirational to no decent bands i have ever seen or heard about.
in my opinion american idiot was made because the record companies went "your album sold well. make us another!"
"yes sir mr gives me money. anything you money money."
three days later, american idiot was written.[/QUOT

Yes, i did politely ask to elaborate, which he didn't, although he did show good skills in avoiding the simplest question, of how Green Day's music is "derivative", which would strongly suggest he included this word because he liked the sound of it, and/or to sound clever, which indidently due to its misuse, he failed to achieve.

He wittily stated earlier that Green Day's music was purposeless and later went on to answer my 2nd question, which was what makes Green Day's music bland, by cunningly typing some dollar and pound signs at an vague attempt to imply Green Day produced American Idiot just for the money, which surely then, would make Green Day's music's purpose, to earn Green Day Money, would it not.

Hypocrisy aside, he didn't actually elaborate on any of my actual questions, but merely whacked a wild acussation in, that Green Day are only in it for the money which would mean a) he knows Green Day personally, or b) he's a complete and utter prick, who thinks everyone else in the world is as much of a philistine as he is. If he genuinely responds to this with "a)", i personally will skip backwards, stark naked around Siberia, with a tattoo on my head reading, "Siberians are scum, furthermore shoot me", whilst playing the banjo.

In response to your particular brand of inane b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t., i actually like the fact that Green Day generally use mainly simple power chords, because that makes the songs i love easier to play and to improvise with. Besides, as i've said before, it's how the music makes me feel which is what matters to me anyway. If it makes you retch, crap yourself, or do a little jig, then good for you mate, have some cake, but i only crap myself with joy, retch with glee and jig with reckless abandon, when i hear Green Day.

is it true the lead singer has throat cancer I heard that...sorry that's a little off topic but whatever

I couldn`t give a flying **** about busted mcfly or fightstar. Or Green Day for that matter.

I could go tell you to listen to some real punk , but there`s not much point seeing that it`s been dead for 25 years.

ok, firstly, yeah, music is all about how it makes you feel, also, respect for other peoples opinions is of paramount importance here yet sadly lacks on this forum. im done on this thread, its boring me.

i just wanted to hear his/her reasons why. you know my opinion and thats all there is to say.

wow sorry!
isnt a forum for peoles oppinions and ner i dont wana no everything about punk but i think a deaf man could work out that greenday are not punk in the slightest

Green Day are lifeless, soulless copies of a multitude of bands often mentioned in this very forum. Take some time to familiarise yourself with the works of numerous acts that are mentioned in the punk forum of this very website, and you will notice that many of them contain a startling similarity to Green Day's output, the only difference is they created those records before I was even born. Green Day have never created a groundbreaking or innovative record, they have never pushed the boundaries even of mainstream popular music, they certainly haven't created anything that moves anyone over the age of 14 to pick up a guitar and actually SAY something. Apart from New Found Glory. Wow. Sterling effort there.

You are correct with one assertion, I am rather fond of the word derivative, it's a nice sounding word, as is phillistine which you so eloquently used to describe myself. I don't intend to justify that remark in any way, you seem well educated enough to realise the limited effect that a personal insult will have on a messageboard, although that might be a gross error on my part. To say that Green Day make you "jig with reckless abandon" makes me laugh. Out loud. Especially following your phillistine comments.

Oh, and by the way, how can I actually respond to "your questions" when you don't even use the correct punctuation in your post to show that you are actually asking a question? Dad.

You should read the thread Tribute to Greenday, and learn something...because right now you sound just as ignorant and in denial as ConnradCKY32. Why dont you just accept the fact that they aren't punk and move on... maybe learn a thing or too about real punk bands that actually have talent from some people here...

Green day is pop rock end of story.

Green Day TO ME is the "new punk" like the sissy wannabe punk like Good Charlotte and Sum 41 and Blink 182...some catchy tunes here and there, I like Green Day and think that they are very underrated, but I do not lable them PUNK.

^excuse me? I saw Green Day live last year, and guess who opened for them? That's right New Found Glory....
I thought that they were whinny and same old same old....
I couldn't wait for them to end their set because without someone mastering and polishing them in the studios, I was getting a headache from the high pitches....

great for you! but their still pop to me.. sheesh.. stupid bacardi!!!!

I quit reading after "i like green day"

:laughing: yeah underrated HA! thats why they sold tons of records of American Idiot, and have tons of mindless trendoid fans, who just jumped on the bandwagon when American Idiot came out. Thats why every time you turn on the radio their song is playing, and why boulevard of broken dreams is on a loop on mtv. They won like best rock group or album or whatever at the grammys. Billy Joe Armstrong has turned into a fuc*kin douche bag who wears 5 lbs of eye make up.. Totally UNDERRATED

Exatly green day didnt inspire a band that wasnt same crappy love **** over and over now lets talk about real bands that did **** the ramones.They influnced a some many people and they rocked hard to their lyrics were inspiring green day did ther same **** for 4 albums can u say no talent bums? Hey lets jump on the bush sucks bandwagon to make millions of dollars hell yeah thats what punks about making money not givin the finger to the man.Lets face it School of ROck is more punk then green day.

:clap: :thumb:

I comlpetely agree with the fact that bands are jumping on the Bush bandwagon, but I do have to say that they are really protesting it and giving Canada the :thumb: and america the :finger: !
I am from Canada so I have got my own political ideas, and I agree with Green Day's point of veiw....they are the exception.

I didn't mean the stupid awards and MTV bull**** that your t.v soaked generation has grown to appreciate....
I like Billie Joe's new look.
When I said underrated, I was reffering more to Mike's bass playing skills and Tre's drumming, grow up a bit and know that music is not about the masses or the awards...

How exactly was Soundgardner supposed to know that you were talking about? All you said was that they are very underrrated, which they are not, in any manner, AT ALL. They are overexposed, as evident with the fact half the threads in the punk forum are about them.
BTW, it's sad how you resort to insults and name-calling whenever someone points out something wrong that you said. It should be pointed out that most of your insults could have easily have been said about you, yet no one here has done that.
Green Day underrated...hahaha. This just gets better everyday!

not insulting, get a sense of humor, or even, don't be so sensitive...

there you go again with your insults. I was defending that soundgardener dude, nothing you said was personal enough for me to take sensitively. You really are an idiot. You can never back up anything you say, so you just spew pathetic insults and name-calling. Why can't you just admit you know nothing at all about punk music?

I do apologise for my failure to punctuate my questions correctly - textbook error. But it's not as if you couldn't tell they were questions now, was it. Other than my complete disregard for punctuation, a heinous crime to be punished by Celine Dion, i have to say now that i'm gonna have to disagree with you again and allow my earlier posts to do the smoting for me, with repects to music and how i feel about it. No hard feelings and all that, i just disagree with the majority of your viewpoints on this subject, since many of them are extremely broad generalisations. Well, at least you laughed i suppose. I will check those bands out though, if they do sound anything like Green Day, cheers. See you around , son.

Isn`t it sad in a world full of music people choose to talk about these losers

Selling millions of copies of albums is not classified as being a loser in my books I have no more to say on the matter as i am offended by your jealous nature.

Britney Spears sells millions of albums too , I suppose you like her too

don't like her music, wouldn't call her a loser though. Considering she can do things we can only dream of with her money etc. I believe she has got talent though. And a chassis to match.

I wasn`t talking about a monitary point of view.

They can sell a billion albums for all I care , it`s not jealousy , it`s bemusement that someone could find something so tepid , cliched & something obviously written with the pop market in mind so fulfilling.

you say that I am an idiot and know nothing about punk music, and I spew insults? Who's insulting now, and every ****ing time that I leave a post.....?
You are a walking contadiction....and yes..I know it is Green Day, lay off. Well now the gloves are off young one...seems every time I come on here, you are here...what do you sit in front of the computer all day and insult others opinions? At least I am out there living my life....what do you got against me? So I don't know every ****ing detail about punk music, and all their names, and birthdays...that's punk...not being a little computer geek, faceless over the net knowing all the facts and thinking they are smarter than everyone...you have been giving me **** here for so long...now the gloves are off and I am glad. I gave you a chance at what you had to offer opinion-wise, but now I just don't care...you really think that your **** don't stink. Well grow up and live some more and then maybe you can talk to me...I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way.

Well, stop bitching bout it, go grab some pen and paper, write a song, play a tune on guitar, pair them, release it. sell more than they do, then go and tell them to their face that you are better than them. when you do i will PERSONALLY eat my hat, regardless or not if it contains the faeces of a rabid pidgeon. thank yoh.

nicely done

Ill agree with that, saying that offends me when me and my mate dan have been listening for years, then people hear boul.of.bro.dreams and they're like "Oh have you heard this new band Green Day" that ANNOYS mewhat are you, 5?

Ahh , the old 'why don`t you do it' arguement

You put out a peice of work you get a critique of it , thats how life goes.

I`ve no desire to be a musician , i`m happy in my work & I get paid well for it.

However I spend my hard earned money on music & also recieving TV so naturally if i`ve spent money on it I have every right in the world to express my opinion on it.

So please don`t patronise me with that arguement , i`m sure you can make one a lot better than that.

i only say these things because its annoying that Ive heard less narrowminded insults from people i go to college from, and they are utter philistines that believe it is cool to say the words "bruv" and speak what can only be described as chav english. im sure YOU can also do better.