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TrampInaTux 12-30-2005 08:30 AM

I'm glad someone agrees with me and actually has the balls to say they do aswell. I know there are many people on the forum who like Green Day and will read this and not reply because they are scared that everyone will argue with them and they will then not be considered 'cool' within some of the very accomplished writers etc. on this forum. I know there will be people who will post things along the lines of 'Green Day suck' and I pity them-they are the ones who are following the herd. There are the others who don't like Green Day and will voice their opinion and explain why. That's fine-you have your opinion, and not everyone likes the same type of music. I'm just saying that instead of complaining, I'm hoping that people can accept the fact that Green Day are accomplished musicians in their own right. Even though they might not be to your taste, they are still very good at what they do. And Pop-Punk is what they do, so if you accept that and see that Green Day isn't the cause of Punk's problems, then maybe we can get on with our lives and finally leave this tiresome subject alone.

half_baked87 12-30-2005 09:34 AM

i don't think there are too many people that are scared on here at all, we know what we like. i don't mind green day in all eras, but i do like their older stuff better. but the comment about asking my favourite bands who influenced them? heh, i highly doubt that NOFX, Husker Du and Hot Water Music would cite Green Day as a huge influence. but no doubt they have been influencial to pop music.

TrampInaTux 12-30-2005 10:24 AM

I would say some people (such as they girl who wrote the poor country song) stopped coming on here because of what people wrote back to them. They didn't like people bad-mouthing them so they left. I didn't mean to say scared, just worried in case they were the next person that the Musicbanter faithful would cast off. I was one of those people in my early days, and it's a bit annoying when no-one listens to what you are saying and disregards you as another poser.

madeinNY 12-30-2005 11:44 AM

I like Greenday, some of their songs are not that good, but all in all they are pretty good. Their old stuff rocks too. But Blvd. of Broken dreams is by far in my top 10 song list.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-30-2005 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowe
Wow dude. Don't hide your enjoyment of a band because so called punk officianados have dubbed Green Day unworthy. I have just had a huge argument about this on another board. I wish I had the energy to argue for them right now. Been awake too damn long. American Idiot was a fine album, if you think Green Day is going to keep writing about being socially inept and masturbation you're wrong. They're 30 years old, not teenagers anymore. People will always find something to bitch about. IF they still wrote like they did when they were younger, people would write them off and say they always sound the same, but here they are growing up and making some different kinds of music and people say they want old stuff. If you look for something to be wrong, you'll find something. The funny thing is, I remember when Green Day first broke into the mainstream in 94, punks everywhere liked the music, I'm talkin' people spanning from devout Oi punk, to the new generation of music listeners. You know why? Because then, punk wasn't a "big thing" when it came to mainstream. But as soon as it was. All of the music elitists wrote Green Day off because somebody who they didn't consider up to their level of musical knowledge liked the band. They just had to seperate themselves and be unique. So they turned away from GD to do this- which is funny because now - if you say you like punk and mention Green Day as a favorite band, you get marginalized as a pop punker by "REAL PUNK FANS OMG"- it's bull****. The whole idea of punk to begin with is to step away from society and to remove yourself from the kind of **** that society will put an individual through, and here punk fans are, outcasting people trying to enjoy music because its not up to their standards. Throwing away everything that punk stands for. Nowadays, its awesome to listen to old, relatively unheard of punk - or find the undersigned, overlooked bands... and that makes you a REAL FAN. Don't fall into the trap hobo. Green Day ****ing Rocks. I ranted. I still have more to say, but I am tired. One more thing, I bet if most of you got to ask your favorite bands who an influence was... I guaren-****ing-tee Green Day would be one of their influences.


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sleepy jack 12-30-2005 01:39 PM

I hate green days music, i think billy joe can't sing, quit making it seem like green day is the target of all our hatred. I can name quite a few more punk bands that get picked on.


http://musicbanter.com/showthread.php?t=9423

This thread isn't allowed here not that anyone pays attention to the rules.

madeinNY 12-30-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by starterofthethread AKA hobo
BIG mistake posting this here

He admitted it wasn't supposed to be here.

sleepy jack 12-30-2005 01:49 PM

Then why post it? Oh, cause rules are made to be broken i guess.

madeinNY 12-30-2005 01:51 PM

Maybe he wanted to get his point across.

sleepy jack 12-30-2005 01:52 PM

Whats the point? Boo hoo alot of people think green day suck and i can see why, fanboys need to get over their whining and worshipping long enough to realize green day isn' that good, and the fact they're extremely overated is also annoying.

madeinNY 12-30-2005 01:54 PM

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Just because you think GD sucks doesn't mean they actually do.

this_guy 12-30-2005 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
Whats the point? Boo hoo alot of people think green day suck and i can see why, fanboys need to get over their whining and worshipping long enough to realize green day isn' that good, and the fact they're extremely overated is also annoying.


To be fair in every music forum in the punk one green day get the most abuse. They are punk. But a lot of people deny that ( I have noticed that most of these people are streetpunk). So green day being punk is a thing you will have to accept

sleepy jack 12-30-2005 01:59 PM

Did i say everyone thinks green day sucks? No, i said alot of people and green day are a pop group now, american idiot is not a punk record.

madeinNY 12-30-2005 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
long enough to realize green day isn' that good,

So, you said green day wasn't that good...that is your opinion and can not be proven.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 12-30-2005 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeinNY
So, you said green day wasn't that good...that is your opinion and can not be proven.

Just the same as yours cant though. Its an opinion, everyone has one, deal with it. If you think theyre good, then thats great for you, but there are an awful lot of people who cant stand the music, and I cant blame them for that at all..

half_baked87 12-30-2005 02:05 PM

i see where misfits is coming from, theres just too much green day, and it should be kept in the official green day thread. im sure most people are sick of hearing the debate, but if you have to say something, keep it in the green day thread.

EDIT: creepy, it happened immedatley afterwards....

littleknowitall 12-30-2005 02:46 PM

ya know if you actualy have the time to read through alot of these threads from what i can tell people are just repeating themselves every 10 pages, and more so they're just repeating what you hear everywhere these days, what gets me is the song american idiot, and the fact that the popular image of a greenday fan (well in my head atleast) is of just that (an american idiot), oh the irony ey? i dont understand why this disasterous thread wasn't shut down at page 50???
who let this monstrosity of a thread continue?? the greenday fans are just
making idiots of themselves and half of the people in here left over are just saying the same old tired things, "greenday are not punk" that post right there ill bet money has been posted 100 times on every single music discussion board on the web. i mean god, idiots will be idiots, your convincing none of them that greenday are ****, so will you all just be quiet damn it! :bringit:

ArtistInTheAmbulance 12-30-2005 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by moley
ya know if you actualy have the time to read through alot of these threads from what i can tell people are just repeating themselves every 10 pages, and more so they're just repeating what you hear everywhere these days, what gets me is the song american idiot, and the fact that the popular image of a greenday fan (well in my head atleast) is of just that (an american idiot), oh the irony ey? i dont understand why this disasterous thread wasn't shut down at page 50???
who let this monstrosity of a thread continue?? the greenday fans are just
making idiots of themselves and half of the people in here left over are just saying the same old tired things, "greenday are not punk" that post right there ill bet money has been posted 100 times on every single music discussion board on the web. i mean god, idiots will be idiots, your convincing none of them that greenday are ****, so will you all just be quiet damn it! :bringit:

The irony is that this post is nothing new either.

littleknowitall 12-30-2005 02:55 PM

look, there's 82 pages to this crappy thread, im not gonna read each and every single one, im just doing my best to plead for this nightmare thread to be deleted. DO IT!

ArtistInTheAmbulance 12-30-2005 02:57 PM

Im not deleting it. If I do that, we'll still get the same amount of crappy Green Day threads and anti Green Day threads as ever, so whats the point? We just shove em all in here, and no one ever needs to read em again.

Tommyrocker 12-30-2005 04:44 PM

i love the way one person says they are ****, then think their word is fact, but better yet, someone who then likes green day rises to the bait, almost saying they believe what that person has just said, if you like them you like them, if you don't, you dont, it's subjective, get over yourselves, hippies.

sleepy jack 12-30-2005 04:45 PM

I don't like them and i didn't enjoy being called mindless and falling a herd.

madeinNY 12-30-2005 05:40 PM

As you once said to me, "everyone has opinions, get over it."

sleepy jack 12-30-2005 05:42 PM

If an opinion is a generalization (therefore wrong) im going to point it out.

Fenixpunk 12-30-2005 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
I don't like them and i didn't enjoy being called mindless and falling a herd.

thats pretty funny, you dont like being refered to as following a herd for not liking green day, but as you put it the people who like green day are simply "fanbois". Kinda hypocritical dont you think?

sleepy jack 12-30-2005 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
thats pretty funny, you dont like being refered to as following a herd for not liking green day, but as you put it the people who like green day are simply "fanbois". Kinda hypocritical dont you think?

Yes it was.

Fenixpunk 12-30-2005 05:46 PM

just checkin ;)

Mr Sensitive 12-31-2005 08:18 AM

Ignore

Muzak 02-05-2006 05:38 PM

I have some random questions that I hope for clarification for.
Who is the person who doesn't second guitar for Green Day when they are live (American Idiot tour)?
When they do ST. Jimmy life, why does Billy Joe not play the guitar?
In the album Shenanigens, what is the song D.U.I? It had been painted over but you can see tha name of the song though it isn't on the CD.

sleepy jack 02-05-2006 05:41 PM

Well this what i've read on various message boards over time (this question is asked loads).The fourth guitarist is Jason white.For the second question, im just assuming its because its more fun sometimes to play without your guitar and jump around and sing, or because the song only needs one guitar and he doesn't want to have his strapped around his neck if hes not going to play it.

Muzak 02-05-2006 05:48 PM

Thank you Crowquill! Twice now that I am in your debt. :)

Edit: Forgot a question.
Is Billy Joe ***? Serious question because I heard many rumors and some of the song suggest this (King for a Day, American Idiot).

sleepy jack 02-05-2006 06:26 PM

I doubt it, I think hes married..But then again on this recent tour him and mike dirnt have start kissing on stage. Which is a rip-off of what the used do.

incesticide 02-08-2006 03:14 PM

Billie Joe is bisexual.
DUI, I believe was written when Billie Joe was arrested for DUI. That's a B-side track though.

incesticide 02-08-2006 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by moley
look, there's 82 pages to this crappy thread, im not gonna read each and every single one, im just doing my best to plead for this nightmare thread to be deleted. DO IT!

Why should it be deleted. For your satisfaction? Despite what you all think, there are Green Day fans and you're going to have to learn to respect it. Everyone on this forum can trash and slam Green Day, in their opinion, and members are also just as capable to talk about how much they like them. There is no reason why this thread should be deleted.
In my opinion, Green Day is a phenominal band. Their old stuff, back to 1039 smoothed out slappy hours & insomniac & dookie, are great. As time went on, lyrically, they just blew their last few albums.
Just because you all want to be tough and say OH GREEN DAY SUCKS doesnt mean anything. You have to admit you own some kind of copy of dookie or some kind of song from it. That album was almost essential in every household in the early 90's.
You can sit here and trash Green Day as you well please, but the diffrence on opinons is not going to get this thread deleted.

Diamond 04-06-2006 02:01 AM

Green Day
 
does anyone like Green Day?
i love Green Day.
i think they are the best.

MURDER JUNKIE 04-06-2006 02:07 AM

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Don 04-06-2006 09:20 AM

Yeah man! Totally! They rawwwwwk!!!

I love how they're so original and so talented! Man do they master those 3-4 chords and three note melody lines. And how they sing about the same thing 90% of the time!

littleknowitall 04-06-2006 09:25 AM

awwww that was cruel :D

but someone do please move this out of the punk section, its insulting. or just delete it, its just gonna be 2 pages of tiresome insults.

Don 04-06-2006 09:26 AM

Sometimes I take it too far? I probably should have left it at the first sentence. Shall I edit?

littleknowitall 04-06-2006 09:28 AM

heh no point, she'll probably only post that once anyway on a whim and never come back.


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