Straight Edge

Rubber · 06-03-2009, 04:33 PM

that's right kids, never live in the moment. and most of all: never. have. fun.

ElephantSack · 06-06-2009, 09:33 AM

Living a clean, aware existence: I'm all for it.

Being a pretentious, arrogant bastard that assumes the right to tell everyone else how to live: exactly what's wrong with the world.

ElephantSack · 06-06-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Carly Wentz

i find it funny that a lot of people say that casual sex, drugs, and alcohol are "too fun" to give up.
see- that's the problem with this generation. all anyone ever cares about is living in the moment, and "having fun." being care-free just sets you up for disaster in the long run. also, a lot of people now a days have the mentality that they are invincible. I'd like to quote the boston straight edge band, Have Heart- "It won't happen to me, It won't happen to me, it won't happen to me. That's what they always ****ing say."

so, look forward, and take care of your body, so you don't wind up dead or pregnant by the age of 16.

I don't disagree with you completely. However, the details I emboldened: I feel that living in the moment is absolutely essential to a healthy development. This is my last day of a week-long fast, that means no food, no alcohol, no drugs whatsoever. And I can tell you that my actions as of late have not been so precise in a very long time, and it's because I've been feeling the moment. In the words of Baba Ram Das: BE HERE NOW. I feel like that's exactly what straight edge was based on.
Being care-free isn't far away from the same sentiment. There's a difference between being care-free and being care-less. Being care-free is the kind of feeling that gets me hyped, you know? It's the **** that makes me wanna climb mountains and jump off bridges and go on tour and have some ****in' fun! But I think I understand what you were getting at. However, I think an avoidance of being care-free is a product of a lot of fear.
Which brings me to my third point. Your last statement reminds me of the sort of things that every ****ty teacher in my life ever tried to tell me was going to happen to me if I didn't "shape up". Granted, when I was in high school, I was pretty careless. I didn't really give a **** about much. But then again, what teenager does? It's just that I find it to be a VERY general statement. Did I drink and do a lot of drugs when I was 16? Yes. Did I have sex? Yes. I'm not saying that's the right way to go. But it didn't wreck my life either. It's all about circumstance, I guess. Some people are meant to waste their time drinking away, smoking away, snorting away, shooting away every day. And some people are meant to look beyond that. Learn from the experience and progress.
Also, it sounded like you were comparing being pregnant as something akin to dying. I like that. I think its funny.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 06-06-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubber

that's right kids, never live in the moment. and most of all: never. have. fun.

It's called balance. Worst. Post. Ever.

lucifer_sam · 06-06-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ElephantSack

Living a clean, aware existence: I'm all for it.

Being a pretentious, arrogant bastard that assumes the right to tell everyone else how to live: exactly what's wrong with the world.

brilliant fucking quote.

CanwllCorfe · 06-07-2009, 12:32 AM

I'm straight edge but.. I don't have to try to be. I just don't drink, smoke or do drugs. I don't see any point. I have fun without them.. and they're bad for you. That's just my 2 cents.. or 3 .. or whatever

Engine · 06-07-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubber

that's right kids, never live in the moment. and most of all: never. have. fun.

Ironically when Ian M. coined the term I think that he was saying 100% that we should all live in the moment. For him that meant no drugs/alcohol or empty sexual relationships. It had nothing to do with giving up fun and it wasn't about following some dogmatic code.

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Originally Posted by can_i_say

Ian said it best in the Social D/Youth Brigade docu, not a set of rules, but simply a way saying you have your **** together. I get pissed every couple of weeks and still feel I have a "straight" lifestyle.

I think this point of view is more in line with the original idea.

ElephantSack · 06-07-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

brilliant fucking quote.

I was in the moment.

Schizotypic · 06-07-2009, 01:13 PM

I would just like to point out that there are people who can't think for themselves in every group of teenagers following something. Straight-edge people that Ive come across are retarded, none of them are anything more then a bunch of shallow fucking followers who wouldn't have done drugs anyway and despite that, act like martyr's. Then I know the more relaxed type, figuring stuff out, doing drugs, etc. It's all techno music, misfits and rancid, and wanna-be-hardcore bullshit where I was. Oh, god, and people motherfucking buying punk clothes. Isn't that an oxymoron? Fucking Misfits....

xTevinx · 06-09-2009, 03:45 PM

Uhm..anyway.
I'm edge. But I am for multiple reasons.
Not to follow some trend. And I don't go around with giant X's on my hands.
I only actually like a few hardcore punk bands (Have Heart, Bane, xBishopx).
I let people live their lives. But like, if I'm out and someones smoking I either move, or if I was there first I ask them to. Never really gotten into an arguement, and I've deffinitly have never jumped anyone for doing drugs or anything. I really pissed me off that GANGLAND thing the History channel did on Straight Edge. Know tons of stupid kids at my school think I like, kill people. I mean, I live in the moment, but drugs and alcohol is just not the moment I want to be in.
And the sex thing, well I respect myself more than to just throw my virginity away to someone I probably wont marry.

06-03-2009, 04:33 PM	#61 (permalink)
Rubber sidewalks Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Novi Posts: 401	that's right kids, never live in the moment. and most of all: never. have. fun. __________________ and we stayed, sixteen.

06-07-2009, 12:32 AM	#66 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	I'm straight edge but.. I don't have to try to be. I just don't drink, smoke or do drugs. I don't see any point. I have fun without them.. and they're bad for you. That's just my 2 cents.. or 3 .. or whatever __________________ Your eyes were never yet let in to see the majesty and riches of the mind, but dwell in darkness; for your God is blind.

06-09-2009, 03:45 PM	#70 (permalink)
xTevinx Music Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: PA Posts: 83	Uhm..anyway. I'm edge. But I am for multiple reasons. Not to follow some trend. And I don't go around with giant X's on my hands. I only actually like a few hardcore punk bands (Have Heart, Bane, xBishopx). I let people live their lives. But like, if I'm out and someones smoking I either move, or if I was there first I ask them to. Never really gotten into an arguement, and I've deffinitly have never jumped anyone for doing drugs or anything. I really pissed me off that GANGLAND thing the History channel did on Straight Edge. Know tons of stupid kids at my school think I like, kill people. I mean, I live in the moment, but drugs and alcohol is just not the moment I want to be in. And the sex thing, well I respect myself more than to just throw my virginity away to someone I probably wont marry. __________________ Favorite bands: The Devil Wears Prada Suicide Silence WhiteChapel Oceana

06-06-2009, 09:33 AM	#62 (permalink)
ElephantSack Man vs. Wild Turkey Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 948	Living a clean, aware existence: I'm all for it. Being a pretentious, arrogant bastard that assumes the right to tell everyone else how to live: exactly what's wrong with the world.

06-07-2009, 01:13 PM	#69 (permalink)
Schizotypic Souls of Sound Sailors Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mojave Posts: 759	I would just like to point out that there are people who can't think for themselves in every group of teenagers following something. Straight-edge people that Ive come across are retarded, none of them are anything more then a bunch of shallow fucking followers who wouldn't have done drugs anyway and despite that, act like martyr's. Then I know the more relaxed type, figuring stuff out, doing drugs, etc. It's all techno music, misfits and rancid, and wanna-be-hardcore bullshit where I was. Oh, god, and people motherfucking buying punk clothes. Isn't that an oxymoron? Fucking Misfits....