to be honest im only just starting to get really into them. the songs that have caught me by the bollocks so far are Smile, totally wired, ludd gang, how i wrote elastic man, new puritan, the man whos head expanded and eat y'self fitter

Yes, I ordered my ticket last night. :)

Yes you got a ticket for the Carling Academy, or yes there's a Manchester gig?

I got a ticket for the Carling Academy. I also got This Nation's Saving Grace last weekend, really good. :)

Theyre a good band but not a great one in my opinion. They used to have something of Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band about them but now its like this danceable beat driven thing. Im not really a fan, I just like the odd song here and there. Definitely overrated. Theyre kind of an archetypal indie band that gets written about in all the right places and held aloft by all the right people but I think the critical reverence and the legacy thats been put in place is very out of step with the actual quality and consistency of their output.

Plus theyre just a dull live band. No personality at all. Its just a jukebox scenario and that doesnt interest me.

There are loads of criticisms you could level at The Fall

I would have thought the LAST thing you could criticise them for is no personality. Mark E Smith has more personality in his fingernail than some bands do in their entire bodies.

What I mean is that he doesnt interract with his audience.

What you want him to do blow you a kiss?

He could at least say hello, even the Black Keys mustered that and they were about as interesting as Ronseal.

does anyone know why they switch around members so often?

The Fall stopped being a proper band before the first album even came out.
He basically got his girlfriend Kay Carroll to become the bands manager which rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way and eventually the original members of the band left.Tony Friel joined a couple of bands and then left the music industry. Martin Bramah & Una Baines went off to form Blue Orchids leaving Mark E Smith to hire & fire whoever he pleased.
He`s often said he treats the band like a football squad and for every band member he has about 3 people lined up to replace them.I guess it`s a combination of wanting to keep things fresh , the other members of the band are heavily involved with the writing process it`s not like it`s Mark E Smith telling everybody what to play.They write the songs & Mark E Smith puts his stamp on them.
Also he`s not the easiest person in the world to get on with , in fact the number of people who were in the Fall who have had nervous breakdowns is incredible.

I played in the Fall once.

Apparently its because Mark E Smith is an ******* and nobody can put up with him for more than a couple of tours.

^ I can't believe the word genius got censored.

h0r is censored.

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holy friggin crap!

MB is prejudicial to geeks who like to call people whores.

OH YES OH YES OH YES OH YES OH YES :D :D :D :D


March 4th?
F*ck you Amazon !

I don't get it, are they trying to suck?

Are you an idiot?

You don`t understand it because you have not really listened to them properly you have to look deep into the lyrics of all 27 albums to understand where they`re coming from.

Oh i`m sorry , I seem to have thought I was a Tool fan just then.

Happy 50th to Mark E Smith on Monday. seeing them this Saturday, should be an experience to say the least.

Lucky!

I've been listening to Peverted by Language and Hex Enduction Hour a lot recently. I like both a lot, more so HEH but both are great. I'm gonna make it a mission to hear all of their albums.

i wish i was able to understand mark e smith in interviews, i was trying to watch a documentary on them, but whenever they cut to a clip of him i had to keep rewinding. Its just too hard.

Im better off reading text interviews with him.

You`ll be wanting Room To Live next , seeing it was recorded slap bang in the middle of those 2 albums.

It`s one of the very few Fall albums I don`t own :(

A lot of people say that about Mark E Smith but personally being a northerner myself I pick up most of what he says.

I can understand what he`s saying , but as i`m not a northener I put it down to experience talking to drunks :o:

:D

I'm watching this

ahem.

shooting star, can you name any more that have sung about a 19th century queen? :P haha, I'm struggling to think of any :\ You've got my dad racking his brains too...which makes a very pleaset change it has to be said ;)

Here's a song by Von Sudenfed, a collaboration between Mouse on Mars and Mark E. Smith. It's pretty interesting, in an odd techno kind of way, pretty enjoyable too. I think their first release is slated to come out this month at some point:

hzzp://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z9NICQD4

and here's some more:

www.myspace.com/vonsudenfed

Thats pretty good stuff. I'm getting the album for sure.

Anyway.....

Divine comedy role for the Fall's lord of misrule

The Fall frontman Mark E Smith is to appear as Jesus on BBC3. Given his history of acting up, he should get his own show.

We've all heard that the Lord moves in mysterious ways, and now the latest word is that Jesus will appear in the ravaged form of Mark E Smith in the sitcom Ideal on BBC 3 at 10.30pm on May 8th.
The Saviour, aka the Fall's frontman, is due to pay small-time dope-dealer Moz's grimy bedsit a visit, and punish Johnny Vegas's character's meaningless existence with some divine retribution.

:D

Ideal on BBC 3 at 10.30pm on May 8th.

*makes a note*

That will be well worth watching. :laughing:

damn, i dont think i get bbc3 in the states :(

somebody better up that on youtube

yeah

let's be honest, mark e smith as jesus can't NOT be on youtube.

I need to get my hands on a cd from this band.

All I've ever heard from The Fall is Blindness, which I liked a lot. Anyone mind recommending some other good tunes?

You must have surely heard 'Victoria' and 'Ghost In My House'.

Bingo Masters Break Out
Psychomafia
Frightened
Rebellious Jukebox
No Xmas For John Quays
Mother Sister
Industrial Estate
Futures & Pasts
Music Scene
Psychic Dancehall
Printhead
Muzorewi's Daughter
Choc Stock
Spectre vs Rector
Put Away
Pay Your Rates
English Scheme
New Face In Hell
C'N'C' -S Mithering
Container Drivers
Jawbone & The Air Rifle
How I Wrote Elastic Man
Totally Wired
Middle Mass
Fit And Working Again
Lie Dream Of A Casino Soul
New Puritan
The Classical
Hip Priest
Fortress/Deer Park
Winter/Winter II
Who Makes The Nazis
Mere Psued Mag Ed
The Man Whos Head Expanded
Ludd Gang
Kicker Conspiracy
Eat Y'Self Fitter
Neighbourhood of Infinity
Garden
Smile
Hexen Definitive/Strife Knot
Lay Of The Land
2 X 4
C.R.E.E.P.
Pat-Trip Dispenser
No Bulbs
Mansion
Bombast
Spoilt Victorian Child
L.A.
Couldn't Get Ahead
Gut Of The Quantifier
I Am Damo Suzuki
Cruisers Creek
Hey Luciano
R.O.D
Mr Pharmacist
Gross Chapel - British Grenadiers
U.S. 80s-90s
Terry Waite Sez
Carry Bag Man
Victoria
Bremen Nacht
Guest Informant
Ghost In My House
Hit The North
New Big Prinz
Dog Is Life/Jerusalem
Kurious Oranj
Wrong Place Right Time
Cab It Up
Dead Beat Decendant
Mollusc In Tyrol
I'm Frank
Bill Is Dead
Black Monk Theme I & II
Telephone Thing
Chicago Now
Idiot Joy Showland
High Tension Line
The War Against Intelligence
Sinister Waltz
Birmingham School of Business School
Free Range
Glam Racket
Ladybird (Green Grass)
Lost In Music
Paranoid Man In Cheap Shit Room
The League Of Bald Headed Men
Why Are People Grudgeful
15 Ways (To Leave Your Man)
Behind The Counter
M5#1
Hey Student
Don't Call Me Darling
Feeling Numb
He Pep
Hostile
Spinetrack
Masquerade
4 1/2 Inch
Spencer Must Die
Touch Sensetive
This Perfect Day
My Ex-Classmates' Kids
Gotta See Jane
Green Eyed Loco Man
Mountain Energei
Theme From Sparta FC
Contraflow
Pacifying Joint
What About Us
I Can Hear The Grass Grow
Clasp Hands
Over Over
Reformation
Fall Sound
White Line Fever
The Wright Stuff
Das Boot

I think that just about covers the basics

As promised

Mark E Smith as Jesus ...

YouTube - Jesus it's a Mark E Smith cameo on Ideal BBC3