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cardboard adolescent 01-18-2006 06:57 PM

The Fall
 
Anyone heard of these guys? Obviously, a lot of you have, since I've seen them mentioned before. In my opinion, one of the greatest post-punk bands of all time, a lot like Wire except more rockin'.

They're led by Mark E. Smith, who I think has been the only constant band member since they started in '77 (they're still at it.)

They released Fall Heads Roll last year, which I haven't heard but I've heard good things about it. Personally, I'm a big fan of their earlier stuff, songs like Hip Priest or Rowche Rumble really do it for me.

A lot of 80/90's bands were big fans of The Fall, including Pavement and Sonic Youth (who did a bunch of crappy covers at one point.)

I don't really know what else to say, they've released an inordinate amount of studio albums, and if you want to hear some recent live stuff, just go here.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 01-18-2006 07:06 PM

my friends brother popped a cd of theirs in once when i was at his house. not sure which cd it was though. i couldnt stand it the first time i heard it, but ive checked some of their stuff out since then and ive actually grown to like some of it. touch sensitive is the only song by them i have on my mp3 player...so i guess id have to say thats my favorite song by them. their style had to grow on me though...because when i heard them for the first time i hated their music.

any other recommendations as to songs i should download?

cardboard adolescent 01-18-2006 07:10 PM

Rowche Rumble
Repetition
Industrial Estate
Totally Wired
Hip Priest
C.R.E.E.P.
The Classical

Touch Sensitive is more later-era Fall, so it's not quite as... jagged... as these songs. Personally, I prefer the earlier songs since they've got more of a punk feel.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 01-18-2006 07:16 PM

alright. great, ill try to check those out. ive also got CREEP on my computer, i dont know why its not on my mp3 player but its a good song.

hiu 01-19-2006 12:13 AM

I like The Fall but compared to some other post punk bands they get boring alot quicker. Still a quality band though.

jazzfromhell 01-19-2006 12:35 AM

They're a cool band, and I have a lot of respect for the kind of music they make, but I've never been able to tap into it as much as I'd like to. The basis of their music appeals to me, it's just never quite worked, not sure why. Still pretty good, though.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 01-19-2006 12:36 AM

it may be you, cardboard adolescent, that i asked this before, but do the talking heads fit in with the "post punk" genre? the fall seem to have somewhat of a similar style about them.

jazzfromhell 01-19-2006 12:39 AM

If you were to ask me, I wouldn't say so. I'd say more new wave-ish, although they're kind of a tough band to classify.

hiu 01-19-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe
it may be you, cardboard adolescent, that i asked this before, but do the talking heads fit in with the "post punk" genre? the fall seem to have somewhat of a similar style about them.

Yes and no. The Talking Heads were sort of on the edge between being a new wave band and being a post punk band.

Shooting Star 01-21-2006 02:52 PM

The Fall have to be my favourite band that's sung a song about a 19th centuary Queen of England. (Victoria... Catchy as hell)

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-21-2006 02:53 PM

A Fall thread?

That I didn`t start?

Whats going on here

hiu 01-21-2006 03:40 PM

I would've made one too but you see i'm lazy.

Croog 01-27-2006 03:52 PM

The Fall are playing at Deeply Vale this year. And so too is Marc Riley.
Mark E Smith and Marc Riley in the same field? That's gonna be interesting!

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-27-2006 04:23 PM

Seeing that they have hundred of albums out here`s the best place for anyone to start off with.......

Essential

This Nations Saving Grace
Perverted By Language
Live At The Witch Trials
The Frenz Experiment
The John Peel Sessions (6 cd box set)

Also Check Out..

Fall Heads Roll
I Am Kurious Oranje
Bend Sinister
Dragnet
Grotesque (after the gramme)
Hex Enduction Hour
Extricate

Shooting Star 01-27-2006 04:33 PM

This Nation's saving Grace and Frenz Experiment are phenomenal.

swim 09-09-2006 09:44 PM

All I have is The Nation's Saving Grace and it's as awesome as awesome gets.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-10-2006 01:18 PM

Give us a shout if you want anymore.

I have Fall albums coming out of my ears.

White Lies 09-11-2006 02:09 PM

I downloaded Live at the Witch Trials some time ago, but ive still to give it a listen.

swim 11-20-2006 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 286006)
Give us a shout if you want anymore.

I have Fall albums coming out of my ears.

May I take you up on this now? I've been meaning to get something else of theirs and it about time I actually did.

muzik_jac 11-20-2006 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Lies (Post 286363)
I downloaded Live at the Witch Trials some time ago, but ive still to give it a listen.

I just listened to this album tonight for the first time.... you should really listen to it soon...it was awesome :hphones:

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-21-2006 12:03 AM

Yes it is

Anyway here`s The Frenz Experiment for now

hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=DDH8ATY2

White Lies 11-21-2006 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muzik_jac (Post 304124)
I just listened to this album tonight for the first time.... you should really listen to it soon...it was awesome :hphones:

damn i really should listen to that, although i think Universal Congress Of are gonna be taking up most of my time just now.

I recently downloaded a Sonic Youth EP thingy, called "4 Tunna Brix". It's them covering 4 songs by The Fall, and it's...really bad tbh. Of course I'm not judging The Fall by that, but man is it terrible. Has anyone heard this?

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-21-2006 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Lies (Post 304138)

I recently downloaded a Sonic Youth EP thingy, called "4 Tunna Brix". It's them covering 4 songs by The Fall, and it's...really bad tbh. Of course I'm not judging The Fall by that, but man is it terrible. Has anyone heard this?

Yes.

I`m not sure exactly but I think they recorded it after he said he thought Sonic Youth were sh*t :laughing:

cardboard adolescent 11-21-2006 04:28 PM

Yeah, I think I mentioned it in the first post.

Definetely don't judge the Fall by that. They're great.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-25-2006 12:34 PM

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/...V39611925_.jpg

I am literally salivating at the thought of this book :D

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-08-2007 01:10 PM

*Bump*

hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=PADSRTPN

Upload for Hex Enduction Hour I have going spare.

coffeeshop 01-08-2007 01:15 PM

:)

Sparky 01-08-2007 03:12 PM

just started checking them out the other day at a friends house, might even buy one of their albums today seeing as how limewire didn't give me anything when i searched them..

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-09-2007 04:48 PM

Cover art & track listing for the new album due out on Feb 12th....

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/...V49047794_.jpg



1. "Over! Over!" (Smith)
2. "Reformation!" (Smith / Barbato)
3. "Fall Sound" (Smith / Barbato / Presley / McCord)
4. "White Line Fever" (Merle Haggard)
5. "Insult Song" (Smith / Barbato / Presley / McCord)
6. "My Door Is Never" (Smith)
7. "Coach and Horses" (Smith / McCord)
8. "The Usher" (Smith / Barbato / Poulou / Presley / McCord)
9. "The Wright Stuff" (Smith / Barbato / Poulou)
10. "Scenario" (Smith / Barbato / Presley / McCord)
11. "Das Boat" (Smith / Barbato / Presley / McCord)
12. "The Bad Stuff" (Smith / Barbato / Poulou / Presley / McCord)
13. "Systematic Abuse" (Smith / Barbato / Poulou / Presley / McCord)
14. "Outro" (Smith / Barbato / Poulou / Presley / McCord)

Can`t wait for this one :D

tdoc210 01-09-2007 06:47 PM

Mark E smith ages well

coffeeshop 01-13-2007 01:36 PM

Anyone gonna see them live on their coming tour?

White Lies 01-13-2007 01:36 PM

Where are they touring?

coffeeshop 01-13-2007 01:50 PM

March

Monday 5th - Robin 2, Bilston, Wolverhampton
Friday 9th - Windsor Suite, King George’s Hall, Blackburn
Saturday 10th - Carling Academy, Liverpool
Monday 12th - Liquid Room, Edinburgh
Tuesday 13th - Liquid Room, Edinburgh
Wednesday 14th - The Tunnels, Aberdeen
Thursday 15th - The Tunnels, Aberdeen
Friday 16th - The Ferry, Glasgow
Saturday 17th - The Ferry, Glasgow
Wednesday 21st - Irish Centre, Leeds
Thursday 22nd - Picturedrome, Holmfirth
Monday 26th - The Point, Cardiff
Tuesday 27th - The Phoenix, Exeter
Thursday 29th - The Old Market, Hove
Friday 30th - The Old Market, Hove

April

Sunday 1st - Palais, Hammersmith, West London
Tuesday 3rd - Zodiac, Oxford
Wednesday 4th - Zodiac, Oxford

According to the official site.

right-track 01-13-2007 06:08 PM

No doubt you'll be going to the Carling Academy gig.

No Manchester venue? :confused:

Sneer 01-13-2007 06:13 PM

i have to hand it to urban, his constant referal to the fall prompted me to buy their anthlogy and i havent been disappointed, really, really good band and mark E. smith is just class.

right-track 01-13-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu (Post 324889)
i have to hand it to urban, his constant referal to the fall prompted me to buy their anthlogy and i havent been disappointed, really, really good band and mark E. smith is just class.

It's the norm for people to be put off by this band on first listen, but when you work out where he's coming from...genius.

It's unusual for a man to control so much of his material as Mark E Smith.

Sneer 01-13-2007 06:19 PM

i just admire how, despite the fact you can hear and sense the level of aggression and fire he has in him, he manages to control it and make a really engaging song of it.

right-track 01-13-2007 06:23 PM

It's not just that...it's his ability to hit the nail on the head, in such a down to earth way.
Simplicity.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-13-2007 06:29 PM

The thing about the Fall is the way they suck you in.
I first heard them around 1992 & hated them.
Then around the time Witch Trials was being remastered i listened to it & picked up on it.So I bought all the reissues as they came out & probably only liked 3 or 4 songs from each one.
But once you listen to those songs you go back & you hear something that you like about another & then another & another.

When I bought that Peel session box set a couple of years ago I probably only liked about one discs worth of material on it , now I can listen to all 6 discs without skipping a single song.

right-track 01-13-2007 06:42 PM

I very rarely mention The Fall on these forums, because like with Northern Soul...I don't expect others to "get it".

Both (on a personal level) reside outside of what is considered 'popular music'...but for very different reasons.


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