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Sparky 05-08-2007 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 365416)
As promised

Mark E Smith as Jesus ...

YouTube - Jesus it's a Mark E Smith cameo on Ideal BBC3

made my day :D

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-21-2007 06:48 AM

Finally found an upload of Brix Smith's band AdultNet ,Which is basically her & some people from Blondie & The Smiths.[/CENTER]

right-track 05-21-2007 01:35 PM

^ woah...nice find. :)

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-15-2008 05:41 PM

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...x3L_SS500_.jpg


1. Alton Towers
2. Wolf Kidult Man
3. 50 Year Old Man
4. I've Been Duped
5. Strange Town
6. Taurig
7. Can Can Summer
8. Tommy Shooter
9. Latch Key Kid
10. Is This New
11. Senior Twilight Stock Replacer
12. Exploding Chimney

Out on 28th April

Can't wait :D :D :D

sweet_nothing 03-15-2008 05:56 PM

I've heard of the fall & Mark E Smith but don't have any albums, suggestions?

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-15-2008 06:02 PM

50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong

It's the only compilation that covers their entire career.

sweet_nothing 03-15-2008 06:04 PM

Alright, and studio albums?

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-15-2008 06:06 PM

You'll need to find out what era of the band you like first before I can answer that.

sweet_nothing 03-15-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 455669)
You'll need to find out what era of the band you like first before I can answer that.

We'll I've herad some of This Nation's Saving Grace and liked it, what era is that?

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-15-2008 06:08 PM

Brix Smith era

In that case you'll be wanting that album , Bend Sinister & Wonderful & Frightening World Of The Fall.

sweet_nothing 03-15-2008 06:10 PM

Alright thanks! :yeah:

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-24-2008 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandwiches (Post 483885)
Yeah, so I'm pretty new to the Fall, I've got Hex Enduction Hour and 458489 A sides. So far I really like a couple tracks but I can't seem to get into most of there other songs. Any suggestions?

Enjoy all my hard work here , although it is a work in progress...

http://www.musicbanter.com/editors-p...orld-fall.html

lucifer_sam 07-07-2008 08:43 PM

Mmmm... I only have This Nation's Saving Grace. I thought it was pretty good. Any suggestions on other good material?

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-08-2008 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 496030)
Mmmm... I only have This Nation's Saving Grace. I thought it was pretty good. Any suggestions on other good material?

If you like that one Wonderful & Fightening World Of The Fall & Bend Sinister should be next.

If you want something a bit different Live At The Witch Trials , Hex Enduction Hour , The Infotainment Scan & Extricate are all the highlights from each of the bands different eras.

Brad Stengel 08-05-2008 02:57 PM

I got "50,000 Fall Fans Can't be Wrong" which was a great introduction to them. I'd say one of the most underrated post-punk bands out there. "Rowche Rumble" is my favorite.

jackhammer 08-05-2008 03:50 PM

The Fall certainly knew how to do a damn good cover:


Urban Hat€monger ? 08-05-2008 04:16 PM

Here's a complete list of all the covers done by The Fall if you want to hear some more.

Louie Louie - Richard Berry & the Pharaohs
Brand New Cadillac - Vince Taylor
Black Night - Deep Purple
Mr Pharmacist - The Other Half
Ghost In My House - R Dean Taylor
Victoria - The Kinks
Jerusalem - William Blake
A Day In The Life - The Beatles
Pinball Machine - Lonnie Irving
Race With The Devil - Gene Vincent
Black Monk Theme Part I - The Monks (Orginal Title - I Hate You)
Black Monk Theme Part II - The Monks (Orginal Title - Oh How To Do Now)
Popcorn Double Feature - The Searchers
White Lightning - The Big Bopper
Just Waiting - Hank Williams
Kimble - Lee Scratch Perry
Legend Of Xanadu - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich
Lost In Music - Sister Sledge
I'm Going To Spain - Steve Bent
Strychnine - The Sonics
Why Are People Grudgeful - Joe Gibbs
Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms
War - Henry Cow
Junkman - The Groundhogs
Shut Up - The Monks
The City Never Sleeps - Nancy Sinatra
I'm Not Satisfied - Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention
Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones - Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
Birthday - The Idle Race
Stay Away (Old White Train) - Johnny Paycheck
Last Chance To Turn Around - Gene Pitney
I'm A Mummy - Bob McFadden & Dor
Jungle Rock - Hank Mizell
I Come And Stand At Your Door - The Byrds
Jet Boy - New York Dolls
Kill Your Sons / Ketamine Sun - Lou Reed
F-Oldin Money - Tommy Blake
Bound - The Audio Arts
This Perfect Day - The Saints
I Wanna Be Your Dog - The Stooges (Clint Boon w/ M.E.S.)
Bourgeois Town - Leadbelly
Gotta See Jane - R Dean Taylor
Ibis Afro Man - Iggy Pop
Classical Gas - Mason Williams
Groovin With Mr Bloe - Mr Bloe
Houston - Dean Martin
Walk Like A Man - Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
I Can Hear The Grass Grow - The Move
Higgle-Dy Piggle-Dy - The Monks
White Line Fever - Merle Haggard
Coming Down - United States Of America
Hungry Freaks, Daddy - Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention
Strange Town - The Groundhogs

And since people keep posting great big lists of songs Led Zeppelin have plagiarized here's a list of songs plagiarized by The Fall :D

Frightened - Hey Joe & Stepping Stone, both by Jimi Hendrix
Psykick Dancehall - Call Any Vegetable by Frank Zappa
No Xmas for John Quays - Up In Her Room by The Seeds & Why Do Fools Fall In Love? by Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
Muzorewi's Daughter - Radio Story by Alternative TV
Rowche Rumble - Shake Appeal by The Stooges
Fiery Jack - Ring Of Fire by Johnny Cash
New Puritan - Kandy Korn by Captain Beefheart
How I Wrote ‘Elastic Man’ - Pictures Of Matchstick Men by Status Quo
Gramme Friday - Brand New Cadillac by Vince Taylor & The Play-Boys (& covered by The Fall)
The N.W.R.A. - Space Is Deep by Hawkwind
Slates, Slags etc - Rema Rema by Rema Rema
Hassle Schmuck - The Hucklebuck by Paul Williams & his Hucklebuckers
Detective Instinct - Mercenaries by John Cale
Marquis Cha-Cha - She Creatures Of Hollywood Hills by The Stooges
Papal Visit - Blue Bag by Can
Oh! Brother - Little Baby by The Blue Rondos
Draygo's Guilt - Vicious by Lou Reed
Clear Off - Semi-Multicoloured Caucasian by Captain Beefheart
Elves - I Wanna Be Your Dog by The Stooges
Mark'll Sink Us - Love Is Only Sleeping by The Monkees
Hey Marc Riley - Hey Bo Diddley by Bo Diddley
Barmy - Valeri by The Monkees
Gut Of The Quantifier - Funky Town by Lipps Inc
I Am Damo Suzuki - Oh Yeah by Can
To Nkroachment: Yarbles - Every Day I Have To Cry by Steve Alaimo/Dusty Springfield
Lucifer Over Lancashire - Devil In The Woods by The Gun Club
US 80's-90's - Obsession by The Passions
Athlete Cured - Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight by Spinal Tap
Wrong Place, Right Time - Gloomy by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Cab It Up! - TV Eye by The Stooges
Squid Lord - Junk Man by The Groundhogs
Sing! Harpy - Little Doll by The Stooges
The War Against Intelligence - Son Of A Preacher Man by Dusty Springfield
The League Of Bald Headed Men - Misty Mountain Hop by Led Zeppelin
Ten Houses Of Eve - Evil Hoodoo by The Seeds
Shake Off (Peel session version)) - Transmaniacon by The Walking Seeds
(Jung Nev's) Antidotes - Kashmir by Led Zeppelin
Touch Sensitive - I'm Waiting For The Man by Velvet Underground

jackhammer 08-05-2008 04:18 PM

Yeah but I will always forgive The Fall. :D

Victoria is a classic cover.

Piss Me Off 08-05-2008 04:25 PM

Quote:

Athlete Cured - Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight by Spinal Tap
Exactly what i thought when i heard it!

cardboard adolescent 08-05-2008 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 504081)
Here's a complete list of all the covers done by The Fall if you want to hear some more.

Louie Louie - Richard Berry & the Pharaohs
Brand New Cadillac - Vince Taylor
Black Monk Theme Part I - The Monks (Orginal Title - I Hate You)
Black Monk Theme Part II - The Monks (Orginal Title - Oh How To Do Now)
Strychnine - The Sonics
War - Henry Cow
Shut Up - The Monks
I'm Not Satisfied - Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention
Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones - Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
Jet Boy - New York Dolls
Kill Your Sons / Ketamine Sun - Lou Reed
I Wanna Be Your Dog - The Stooges (Clint Boon w/ M.E.S.)
Bourgeois Town - Leadbelly
Ibis Afro Man - Iggy Pop
Higgle-Dy Piggle-Dy - The Monks
Coming Down - United States Of America
Hungry Freaks, Daddy - Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention

I really want to hear all of these. Especially the Henry Cow, United States of America and Monks covers.

Brad Stengel 08-10-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 504081)
And since people keep posting great big lists of songs Led Zeppelin have plagiarized here's a list of songs plagiarized by The Fall :D

Rowche Rumble - Shake Appeal by The Stooges
Touch Sensitive - I'm Waiting For The Man by Velvet Underground


I don't know about the rest, but these don't sound "plagiarized". "Rowche Rumble" has a riff slightly like the one in shake appeal, but its much more chaotic. "Touch Sensitive" and "Waiting For the Man" have really basic chord progressions that 100's maybe 1000s of rock songs use. Rock n Roll is a massive incestual orgy of plagiarisms and rip-offs.

cardboard adolescent 08-11-2008 11:50 AM

That may be true but Smith is the king of re-appropriation. Stealing riffs and basslines here and there and making them his own is part of his style

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-23-2008 12:34 PM

I finally have a complete collection of Radio Sessions NOT recorded for John Peel.
I'll up them if there's any interest

FireInCairo 11-09-2008 01:26 AM

Im interested

debaserr 11-25-2008 11:23 PM

so im getting into them and I have been listening to live at the witch trials and this nations saving grace. where should i go from here?

Bulldog 11-26-2008 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trace87 (Post 552140)
so im getting into them and I have been listening to live at the witch trials and this nations saving grace. where should i go from here?

I'd say Perverted By Language and/or Hex Induction Hour are pretty safe bets - they're both kind of in the same vein as those two you mentioned. Slates is well worth checking out too

khfreek 11-26-2008 10:55 PM

I've listened to 2 tracks off Witch Trials, and while I merely thought they were ok, based on posts about The Fall in this thread I'm guessing they'll grow on me (whenever I get the whole album).

Pornographie Nouveau 11-27-2008 12:03 PM

Saw them for the first time at the Hackney Empire on Halloween. Amazing.

Support acts were:
Bobbie Peru who were very good, I think they just need a singer though.
John Cooper Clarke who was amusing. Interestingly, he lives only a few miles away from me.
Safi who was rubbish. I think it was interesting to begin with, had a manipulated Sinead O'Connor video with some extra electronic bits, but then it just got horribly mind numbing.

And needless to say, The Fall was fantastic.

Also, I was sitting beside these dancing girls. You'd think they were Girls Aloud fans rather than Fall fans. I take it their boyfriends dragged them along and they just wanted to have fun. One of them kept spilling beer on me :|

Also, had some awesome dance music at the start. Wish I knew what it was :(

Anyway, yeah. The Fall are the best post-punk band, if you ask me. I only have about six of their albums, though :/

"Primark have some alright stuff at a fair price" ~ Mark E. Smith

Farfisa 11-27-2008 05:49 PM

I just recently downloaded and listened to "Dragnet". What should I go for next?

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-27-2008 05:49 PM

Grotesque

Seltzer 11-27-2008 05:50 PM

I'm still a bit of a novice when it comes to the Fall but you can't go wrong with This Nation's Saving Grace. It's awesome!

zeppy111 12-14-2009 05:42 AM

this thread has gone too long without a bump.

Keen for the new album supposedly coming out in 2010.

After downloading Grotesque in August, and being so-so with it, coming back to it about a month ago and since then have acuired 29 of the bands releases, two books and as much ****e as I can.

I am totally immersed in this band, like no band before and no band to come, i am sure of that.

Brix Era (Heart)

loveissucide 12-14-2009 06:38 AM

I do heart that Fall compilation that was posted here under 00002 Fall Fans can't be wrong.All Fall novices should listen.

LoathsomePete 12-14-2009 09:12 AM

Were my bad of the week last week clocking in around 200 listens according to last.fm.

Only just really begun to delve into their massive discography, but with demonoid still down it's hard to find a discography torrent. Currently This Nation's Saving Grace is my favorite of their albums.

zeppy111 12-14-2009 12:48 PM

That album is probably my favourite out of the Brix era, closely followed by Wonderful and Frightening World blah blah blah.

Edit: Another two releases to the collection, Bingo Masters EP and Middle Class Revolt.

loveissucide 01-12-2010 09:20 AM

I've fallen in love with The Fall.Hex Enduction Hour is incredible.

zeppy111 01-12-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveissucide (Post 809407)
I've fallen in love with The Fall.Hex Enduction Hour is incredible.

A classic that.

Hip-Priest is a great song, one of my favourite Fall song's at that.

Bulldog 01-12-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeppy111 (Post 784364)
That album is probably my favourite out of the Brix era, closely followed by Wonderful and Frightening World blah blah blah.

Edit: Another two releases to the collection, Bingo Masters EP and Middle Class Revolt.

Middle Class Revolt's one of my favourites. Kinda overlooked in the grand scheme of things when it comes to the Fall's discography (at least in so far as I can tell), which is a shame as some of their best songs are on it (15 Ways, Not Up To Much, City Dweller, Shut Up etc).

In other news, I've been listening to the Light User Syndrome again lately, and it ain't half bad. Not exactly what I'd call great though.

Sparky 01-12-2010 02:01 PM

the only one of their albums i really got into was live at the witch trials.

I should download some more

GravitySlips 01-14-2010 10:32 PM

i love the fall!!!

favourite song by them at the moment is I Am Damo Suzuki ... ****ing LOVE the drums in this, and the lyrics.


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