to be honest im only just starting to get really into them. the songs that have caught me by the bollocks so far are Smile, totally wired, ludd gang, how i wrote elastic man, new puritan, the man whos head expanded and eat y'self fitter

Yes, I ordered my ticket last night. :)

Yes you got a ticket for the Carling Academy, or yes there's a Manchester gig?

I got a ticket for the Carling Academy. I also got This Nation's Saving Grace last weekend, really good. :)

Theyre a good band but not a great one in my opinion. They used to have something of Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band about them but now its like this danceable beat driven thing. Im not really a fan, I just like the odd song here and there. Definitely overrated. Theyre kind of an archetypal indie band that gets written about in all the right places and held aloft by all the right people but I think the critical reverence and the legacy thats been put in place is very out of step with the actual quality and consistency of their output.

Plus theyre just a dull live band. No personality at all. Its just a jukebox scenario and that doesnt interest me.

There are loads of criticisms you could level at The Fall

I would have thought the LAST thing you could criticise them for is no personality. Mark E Smith has more personality in his fingernail than some bands do in their entire bodies.

What I mean is that he doesnt interract with his audience.

What you want him to do blow you a kiss?

He could at least say hello, even the Black Keys mustered that and they were about as interesting as Ronseal.

does anyone know why they switch around members so often?