i wouldnt put my trust in wikipedia, some info is good, other is pure crap.

Yeah that is true.... also this is a FORUM what else is it for than discussing things?

after really looking into it punk has not changed much. its still an attitude and music. some of it has gone for the worse like clothing and comercializing(sp?) it. I still feel punk is dead because most of the bands that are very popular suck and most of the bands that are un signed are unpopular are great.

and thats why post-punk is the best

post-punk? wtf is that

^ oh em gee..bauhaus, etc

well i dont listen to Bauhaus or any of thoise bands

you should try them :)

Punk influence music that came afterwards.
If you`re expecting your typical three chord shouty stuff don`t bother.

best post punk band is definatly the stooges.