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tjtech12 02-28-2008 05:19 PM
Just read these:

Russ and Chuck at Fitzgerald's in Houston 8/99

A Punk Synopsis

sleepy jack 02-28-2008 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 448612)
I strongly disagree with you. I suppose you'd call Bad Religion and Pennywise pop-punk then? All of those bands are Pop-punk (and Sum even goes beyond that). This isn't the 70's anymore. Punk isn't all raw anymore. The standards have changed. Led Zeppelin wouldn't be considered Hard Rock today, but back in '69, they were the heaviest thing going. Same goes for punk.
I guess Kelly Clarkson is punk too than.

Alfred 02-28-2008 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 448689)
I guess Kelly Clarkson is punk too than.
What the hell? Okay, we're talking Blink, Sum and Green here. Not Simple Plan and Good Charlotte, and Kelly Clarkson isn't even as punk as them (which doesn't say much). I don't consider GC and SP pop punk at all either, so... yeah.

I know what's punk, and what's power pop.

YouTube - Sum 41 - My Direction <That's not punk?

sleepy jack 02-28-2008 08:07 PM
Typical song for those kinds of bands sounds more like this:
YouTube - blink-182 - Stay Together For The Kids: Original Version

Which sounds very similar to this:
YouTube - Kelly Clarkson-Since U Been Gone

You can go ahead and post the odd song by them and say "Look they're punk (and I don't even think that song is very punk, much too poppy)" but the fact doesn't change Sum 41 is more likely to release stuff like "In To Deep" or "Still Waiting"

Alfred 02-28-2008 08:09 PM
Still Waiting isn't really punk OR pop.

And uh... Stay Together For The Kids isn't exactly THE blink 182 song, though it does get heavy in the chorus.

What I'd like to know is what you define as just Punk Rock.

Strummer521 02-28-2008 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 448689)
I guess Kelly Clarkson is punk too than.
She's so punk...she's the next Avril Lavigne.

sleepy jack 02-28-2008 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 448765)
Still Waiting isn't really punk or pop.
And its your typical Sum 41 song so...

Alfred 02-28-2008 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 448767)
And its your typical Sum 41 song so...
Untrue. Your typical Sum41 song is more along the lines of Underclass Hero or The Hell Song. And I edited my post up there.

sleepy jack 02-28-2008 08:15 PM
Punk Rock is fast paced, raw and simple music not studio made pop for the masses.

Strummer521 02-28-2008 08:17 PM
Sum 41 is not punk because they're not socially deviant. Punk has an ethos behind it...it's a lifestyle.


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